Nonstopdrivel
14 years ago

Isn't implying not only the verb but also the negative particle, as would be necessary for that usage, frowned upon in proper English?

Originally Posted by: get_louder_at_lambeau 



I am not sure what you are driving at here. Are you objecting to the usage "You mean" and implying that it should be phrased "Do you not mean," or are you taking issue with the ellipsis at the end of the sentence?
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14 years ago

I am not sure what you are driving at here. Are you objecting to the usage "You mean" and implying that it should be phrased "Do you not mean," or are you taking issue with the ellipsis at the end of the sentence?

Originally Posted by: Nonstopdrivel 



Yep, I mean the first one. Not sure what you're referring to about an ellipsis at the end of the sentence.
Nonstopdrivel
14 years ago
The standard form of an English yes-or-no question involves inversion of the subject and verb; e.g., "Do you (not) mean . . . ?" Doubt, uncertainty, skepticism, or even outright disbelief can be introduced into the question by retaining the normal subject-verb-object order and giving the sentence an interrogatory intonation. Hence, "You mean . . . ?" -- implying that I think that is what he means, but I am not sure. In this case, it's a teasing request for clarification. English speakers do it all the time without even thinking about it. German has a directly analogous construction. The inversion "Meinst du . . .?" is the normal yes/no form, but disbelief (often stronger than would be implied by the English equivalent) can be indicated by retaining the normal sentence form: "Du meinst . . . ?"

The ellipsis in that sentence is the "than I" part. Most English speakers these days fundamentally misunderstand the word "than." They treat it as some sort of preposition like "to" or "for" requiring an objective (accusative) form, when it really is just a connector. "I hate it when someone is more arrogant than I" is short for "I hate it when someone is more arrogant than I am." It makes no sense to say "than me am," but that is what one implies when one uses the peculiar construction "than me." Ellipsis is leaving out the word or words (in this case, "am") that are implied from the construction of the sentence.

Germans, by the way, never make that "than me" mistake, maybe because it sounds even worse in German than it does in English. A German speaker just would not say, "Ich hasse es, wenn jemand arroganter als mich ist." They always say, "Ich hasse es, wenn jemand arroganter als ich ist," which is an ellipsis for "Ich hasse es, wenn jemand arroganter ist, als ich bin."

Just another way German is more conservative than English.

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Zero2Cool
14 years ago

I can't believe Kevin hasn't already split this tangent out. He must really be bored. :-$

Originally Posted by: Nonstopdrivel 



Actually, this software only allows you to split one post at a time. And it's the off season, I don't much give a damn unless it's a really good topic. Which, I think this one has run it's course, so what the hell?
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zombieslayer
14 years ago

Actually, this software only allows you to split one post at a time. And it's the off season, I don't much give a damn unless it's a really good topic. Which, I think this one has run it's course, so what the hell?

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



It's course?

It's in this case is "it is." So you typed "it is course."

Hmm...
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14 years ago
Gotta say... this particular thread with all its tangents, gives me one big freaking headache. lol.



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Nonstopdrivel
14 years ago
Technically, Shawn, an ellipsis is written as space-dot-space-dot-space-dot-space ( . . . ), and that comma you used wasn't necessary. 🤦

I am literally laughing out loud at this thread, by the way.
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Pack93z
14 years ago

Technically, Shawn, an ellipsis is written as space-dot-space-dot-space-dot-space ( . . . ), and that comma you used wasn't necessary. d'oh!



I am literally laughing out loud at this thread, by the way.

Originally Posted by: Nonstopdrivel 





Trying to conserve DB space with the space removed... 😉
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14 years ago

Actually, this software only allows you to split one post at a time. And it's the off season, I don't much give a damn unless it's a really good topic. Which, I think this one has run it's course, so what the hell?

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



oh boy we can take this thread anywhere and already have.
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14 years ago



ducks fly south instead of walking as it is faster.

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