longtimefan
16 years ago

Favre was the reason they got into overtime, Dingus...

If the rest of the team was playing, it never would have gone to OT...(like if Ruvell Martin could catch the damn ball), but I guess that's conveniently forgotten...

:roll:

"Roddyboy" wrote:



Technically it was Tynes missing that Fg with 4 sec in regulation..

Nice try though
Gravedigga
16 years ago

okay found something

GB 3rd % is 41.9...good for 13th in the league

this year 3 D % 

Ahhh but you want to know last years?>?

last year 3 D % 

42.6

YES 7 tenths of a % point better LAST year to this year for 3rd down conversion

So still want to stick with this year lot more 3 and outs or got something else?

"longtimefan" wrote:




Grav?

Grav??

Bueller??

Bueller?

"longtimefan" wrote:



Just had to didnt you. This will take me some time

Heres a start. Football isnt all about statistics. Look at Favre vs Brady last year. Favre had 28 td's and Brady had 50. I dont think Brady was 2x as good as Favre. All depends on the situation.

Look @ wins & losses.

Loss to Dallas - the defense kept us in there till around the half but the offense was lost out there and had NO CONSISTENCY and could do nothing.

Loss to Minnesota would have been an easy win with Favre. Offense was very inconsistent most of the day.

The losses to Tennessee & Atlanta & Tampa, i have to believe we stand a much better chance of pulling out those close games with Favre. He can be counted on in the clutch at this point in his career. Look at what Favre did on the Jets. Patriots game, Dolphins game, Arizona game after the Jets defense gave up the lead, Chiefs game. In each of these games, he had to come up with plays late in the game to win it. Thats what experience does for you. Rodgers can not win those games consistently like a veteran yet.

I stand by my statement, we have one or maybe 2 losses with Favre and were right where we were last year. 1st or 2nd in the NFC, about to lock up the division and a first round bye. Instead, maybe we make the playoffs, maybe not.

Stats lie. If you want to look at how meaningless stats are, here goes. Peyton Manning is the 16th best rated qb this season. That should tell you all you need to know about stats. Because all things being equal, there is nobody in the history of the game i'd rather have qb'ing my team than peyton other than Favre. There are currently 11 quarterbacks with +90 qb ratings. It used to be that two or three per season would be in the 90's. Offenses are geared toward higher qb rating, a lot of completions, not taking chances and making mistakes. There are only a handful of difference makers out there. Guys you can depend on in clutch situations. IMO, they are Favre, Manning, Romo & Rivers.
--------------------------------------------
UserPostedImage


A wise man once said
---------------------------------------------
You are weak, pathetic and immature..............I would have d
dingus
16 years ago

Favre was the reason they got into overtime, Dingus...

If the rest of the team was playing, it never would have gone to OT...(like if Ruvell Martin could catch the damn ball), but I guess that's conveniently forgotten...

:roll:

"Roddyboy" wrote:



The only thing conveniently forgotten in all of this is that Favre isn't a Packer anymore!

You know what, Im going to stop now and end this waste of my time. You will continue to lament the departure of Throwy T. McInterceptions and hopefully one day you will be able to get over it and enjoy Packers football again.

I am aware that all of this is my fault for venturing in to the Lord Favre section, I will not make the same mistake again.
blank
longtimefan
16 years ago

okay found something

GB 3rd % is 41.9...good for 13th in the league

this year 3 D % 

Ahhh but you want to know last years?>?

last year 3 D % 

42.6

YES 7 tenths of a % point better LAST year to this year for 3rd down conversion

So still want to stick with this year lot more 3 and outs or got something else?

"Gravedigga" wrote:




Grav?

Grav??

Bueller??

Bueller?

"longtimefan" wrote:



Just had to didnt you. This will take me some time

Heres a start. Football isnt all about statistics. Look at Favre vs Brady last year. Favre had 28 td's and Brady had 50. I dont think Brady was 2x as good as Favre. All depends on the situation.

Look @ wins & losses.

Loss to Dallas - the defense kept us in there till around the half but the offense was lost out there and had NO CONSISTENCY and could do nothing.

Loss to Minnesota would have been an easy win with Favre. Offense was very inconsistent most of the day.

The losses to Tennessee & Atlanta & Tampa, i have to believe we stand a much better chance of pulling out those close games with Favre. He can be counted on in the clutch at this point in his career. Look at what Favre did on the Jets. Patriots game, Dolphins game, Arizona game after the Jets defense gave up the lead, Chiefs game. In each of these games, he had to come up with plays late in the game to win it. Thats what experience does for you. Rodgers can not win those games consistently like a veteran yet.

I stand by my statement, we have one or maybe 2 losses with Favre and were right where we were last year. 1st or 2nd in the NFC, about to lock up the division and a first round bye. Instead, maybe we make the playoffs, maybe not.

Stats lie. If you want to look at how meaningless stats are, here goes. Peyton Manning is the 16th best rated qb this season. That should tell you all you need to know about stats. Because all things being equal, there is nobody in the history of the game i'd rather have qb'ing my team than peyton other than Favre. There are currently 11 quarterbacks with +90 qb ratings. It used to be that two or three per season would be in the 90's. Offenses are geared toward higher qb rating, a lot of completions, not taking chances and making mistakes. There are only a handful of difference makers out there. Guys you can depend on in clutch situations. IMO, they are Favre, Manning, Romo & Rivers.

"longtimefan" wrote:



If stats lie, WHY THE HELL, did YOU bring up the 3 and out crap?

Now cuz it was proven you were wrong, you rather not use the stats..OOk so lets throw out stats..and base on FACTS


I have said NUMEROUS time, BF would have given us the best chance..

HOWEVER

HE IS NO LONGER A PACKER

So you can say IF he was here we would have won..

Well I say we dont know, and will never know...Thats a fact you can guess or THINK but we will never fucking know..
Gravedigga
16 years ago

okay found something

GB 3rd % is 41.9...good for 13th in the league

this year 3 D % 

Ahhh but you want to know last years?>?

last year 3 D % 

42.6

YES 7 tenths of a % point better LAST year to this year for 3rd down conversion

So still want to stick with this year lot more 3 and outs or got something else?

"longtimefan" wrote:




Grav?

Grav??

Bueller??

Bueller?

"Gravedigga" wrote:



Just had to didnt you. This will take me some time

Heres a start. Football isnt all about statistics. Look at Favre vs Brady last year. Favre had 28 td's and Brady had 50. I dont think Brady was 2x as good as Favre. All depends on the situation.

Look @ wins & losses.

Loss to Dallas - the defense kept us in there till around the half but the offense was lost out there and had NO CONSISTENCY and could do nothing.

Loss to Minnesota would have been an easy win with Favre. Offense was very inconsistent most of the day.

The losses to Tennessee & Atlanta & Tampa, i have to believe we stand a much better chance of pulling out those close games with Favre. He can be counted on in the clutch at this point in his career. Look at what Favre did on the Jets. Patriots game, Dolphins game, Arizona game after the Jets defense gave up the lead, Chiefs game. In each of these games, he had to come up with plays late in the game to win it. Thats what experience does for you. Rodgers can not win those games consistently like a veteran yet.

I stand by my statement, we have one or maybe 2 losses with Favre and were right where we were last year. 1st or 2nd in the NFC, about to lock up the division and a first round bye. Instead, maybe we make the playoffs, maybe not.

Stats lie. If you want to look at how meaningless stats are, here goes. Peyton Manning is the 16th best rated qb this season. That should tell you all you need to know about stats. Because all things being equal, there is nobody in the history of the game i'd rather have qb'ing my team than peyton other than Favre. There are currently 11 quarterbacks with +90 qb ratings. It used to be that two or three per season would be in the 90's. Offenses are geared toward higher qb rating, a lot of completions, not taking chances and making mistakes. There are only a handful of difference makers out there. Guys you can depend on in clutch situations. IMO, they are Favre, Manning, Romo & Rivers.

"longtimefan" wrote:



If stats lie, WHY THE HELL, did YOU bring up the 3 and out crap?

Now cuz it was proven you were wrong, you rather not use the stats..OOk so lets throw out stats..and base on FACTS


I have said NUMEROUS time, Brett Favre would have given us the best chance..

HOWEVER

HE IS NO LONGER A PACKER

So you can say IF he was here we would have won..

Well I say we dont know, and will never know...Thats a fact you can guess or THINK but we will never fucking know..

"longtimefan" wrote:



Talking about Favre/TT/Packers with people on here is like arguing with my ex girlfriend. No matter what we are talking about, the original point gets lost, we start talking about the same old crap we argued about a year ago and i forgot what the original point was. This is the case here. I dont remember what we were talking about and i'm too tired to find out :)

Good night.
--------------------------------------------
UserPostedImage


A wise man once said
---------------------------------------------
You are weak, pathetic and immature..............I would have d
Zero2Cool
16 years ago
I think I've given up on the premise of this section all together now.
UserPostedImage
CDNRodgersfan
16 years ago
:cyclopsani: only now
Fan Shout
Zero2Cool (14h) : QB coach Sean Mannion
Zero2Cool (14h) : DL Coach DeMarcus Covington
dfosterf (17h) : from ft Belvoir, Quantico and points south. Somber reminder of this tragedy at Reagan Nat Airport
dfosterf (17h) : So eerily quiet here in Alexandria. I live in the flight path of commercial craft coming from the south and west, plus the military craft
dfosterf (17h) : So eeri
Mucky Tundra (20h) : Now that's a thought, maybe they're looking at the college ranks? Maybe not head coaches but DC/assistant DCs with league experience?
beast (21h) : College Coaches wouldn't want that publicly, as it would hurt recruiting and they might not get the job.
beast (21h) : I thought they were supposed to publicly announce them, at least the NFL ones. Hafley was from college, so I believe different rules.
Mucky Tundra (21h) : Who knows who they're interviewing? I mean, nobody knew about Hafley and then out of nowhere he was hired
beast (30-Jan) : I wonder what's taking so long with hiring a DL coach, 2 of the 3 known to interview have already been hired elsewhere.
Zero2Cool (27-Jan) : Packers coach Matt LaFleur hires Luke Getsy as senior assistant, extends Rich Bisaccia's deal
Zero2Cool (27-Jan) : Chiefs again huh? I guess another Super Bowl I'll be finding something else to do.
Mucky Tundra (27-Jan) : Chiefs Eagles...again...sigh
dfosterf (27-Jan) : Happy Birthday Dave!
Mucky Tundra (27-Jan) : happy birthday dhazer
TheKanataThrilla (26-Jan) : Exactly buck...Washington came up with the ball. It is just a shitty coincidence one week later
buckeyepackfan (26-Jan) : I forgot, they corrected the call a week later. Lol btw HAPPY BIRTHDAY dhazer!
buckeyepackfan (26-Jan) : That brings up the question, why wasn't Nixon down by contact? I think that was the point Kanata was making.
buckeyepackfan (26-Jan) : Turnovers rule, win the turnover battle, win the game.
packerfanoutwest (26-Jan) : well, he was
TheKanataThrilla (26-Jan) : Eagles down by contact on the fumble....fuck you NFL
Mucky Tundra (26-Jan) : I think this games over
beast (26-Jan) : Eagles sure get a lot of fumbles on kickoffs
Mucky Tundra (26-Jan) : This game looks too big for Washington
packerfanoutwest (26-Jan) : that being said, The Ravens are the Browns
packerfanoutwest (26-Jan) : Browns, Dolphins have longest AFC Championship droughts
packerfanoutwest (26-Jan) : As of today, Cowboys have longest NFC Championship drought,
beast (26-Jan) : Someone pointed out, with Raiders hiring Carroll, the division games between Carroll and Jim Harbaugh are back on (who can whine more games)
beast (26-Jan) : I'm confused, Pete Carroll and Brian Schottenheimer? When Todd Monken, Joe Brady, Kellen Moore, Kliff Kingsbury and Zac Robinson are availab
Zero2Cool (25-Jan) : Any reason I'm catching a shot here about my intelligence?
Martha Careful (25-Jan) : thank you Mucky for sticking up for me
Martha Careful (25-Jan) : some of those people are smarter than you zero. However Pete Carroll is not
Mucky Tundra (24-Jan) : Rude!
beast (24-Jan) : Martha? 😋
Zero2Cool (24-Jan) : Raiders hired someone from the elderly home.
dfosterf (24-Jan) : I'm going with a combination of the two.
beast (24-Jan) : Either the Cowboys have no idea what they're doing, or they're targeting their former OC, currently the Eagles OC
Zero2Cool (23-Jan) : Fake news. Cowboys say no
Zero2Cool (23-Jan) : Mystery candidate in the Cowboys head coaching search believed to be Packers ST Coordinator Rich Bisaccia.
beast (23-Jan) : Also why do both NYC teams have absolutely horrible OL for over a decade?
beast (23-Jan) : I wonder why the Jets always hire defensive coaches to be head coach
Zero2Cool (22-Jan) : Still HC positions available out there. I wonder if Hafley pops up for one
Zero2Cool (22-Jan) : Trent Baalke is out as the Jaguars GM.
dfosterf (22-Jan) : Jeff Hafley would have been a better choice, fortunately they don't know that. Someone will figure that out next off season
Zero2Cool (22-Jan) : Aaron Glenn Planning To Take Jets HC Job
dfosterf (22-Jan) : Martha- C'est mon boulot! 😁
Zero2Cool (22-Jan) : Thank you
wpr (22-Jan) : Z, glad you are feeling better.
wpr (22-Jan) : My son and D-I-L work for UM. It's a way to pick on them.
Zero2Cool (22-Jan) : Thank you. I rarely get sick, and even more rarely sick to the point I can't work.
Please sign in to use Fan Shout
2024 Packers Schedule
Friday, Sep 6 @ 7:15 PM
Eagles
Sunday, Sep 15 @ 12:00 PM
COLTS
Sunday, Sep 22 @ 12:00 PM
Titans
Sunday, Sep 29 @ 12:00 PM
VIKINGS
Sunday, Oct 6 @ 3:25 PM
Rams
Sunday, Oct 13 @ 12:00 PM
CARDINALS
Sunday, Oct 20 @ 12:00 PM
TEXANS
Sunday, Oct 27 @ 12:00 PM
Jaguars
Sunday, Nov 3 @ 3:25 PM
LIONS
Sunday, Nov 17 @ 12:00 PM
Bears
Sunday, Nov 24 @ 3:25 PM
49ERS
Thursday, Nov 28 @ 7:20 PM
DOLPHINS
Thursday, Dec 5 @ 7:15 PM
Lions
Sunday, Dec 15 @ 7:20 PM
Seahawks
Monday, Dec 23 @ 7:15 PM
SAINTS
Sunday, Dec 29 @ 3:25 PM
Vikings
Sunday, Jan 5 @ 12:00 PM
BEARS
Sunday, Jan 12 @ 3:30 PM
Eagles
Recent Topics
4h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

14h / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

30-Jan / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

29-Jan / Green Bay Packers Talk / Mucky Tundra

27-Jan / Green Bay Packers Talk / packerfanoutwest

27-Jan / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

25-Jan / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

25-Jan / Green Bay Packers Talk / Martha Careful

25-Jan / Random Babble / Martha Careful

20-Jan / Green Bay Packers Talk / Martha Careful

20-Jan / Green Bay Packers Talk / bboystyle

20-Jan / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

20-Jan / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

19-Jan / Random Babble / Martha Careful

18-Jan / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

Headlines
Copyright © 2006 - 2025 PackersHome.com™. All Rights Reserved.