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Zero2Cool
13 years ago
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/05/26/drew-brees-owners-saw-gene-upshaws-death-as-an-opportunity/ 

As one of the named plaintiffs in the players’ lawsuit against the owners, Saints quarterback Drew Brees has closely monitored the labor situation. And he traces the current problems to the day the former head of the NFL Players’ Association died.

But Brees doesn’t believe the problem is that Gene Upshaw’s death left the players without a leader. Instead, Brees says the owners perceived that the players were left without a leader, and they thought they could cash in on Upshaw’s passing.

“Ever since Gene Upshaw passed away — I’m just going to lay it all out there — the owners saw blood in the water,” Brees told Jim Trotter of SI.com. “They felt like, ‘This is our opportunity to take a significant piece of the [financial] pie back at all costs, a piece that we will never have to give back again. This is our chance, while they don’t have leadership, while they’re scrambling to find a new executive director. This is our time.’”

It’s incredibly distasteful to think about the owners celebrating the death of a Pro Football Hall of Famer who is one of the most significant figures in NFL history, but Brees believes that that’s how the owners viewed Upshaw’s death: A time when the players weren’t prepared to do anything other than accept what they were offered.

“Their philosophy was, We’re going to give you a very subpar deal, a slap-in-the-face deal, and hope that you’ll accept it because hopefully we’ve intimidated you enough into thinking that this is a take-it-or-leave-it deal, and you’re just going to succumb to the pressure,” Brees said. “Well, guess what. We’re a lot more informed and educated than in the past, and we’re much better businessmen than you think and we’re going to stand up for what is right and what is fair. Fifty-fifty is fair. It’s been fair for the last 20 years and I think the game has done pretty well over the last 20 years. I think franchise values have gone up at a pretty good rate over the last 20 years. So you can’t sit here and tell me that the system is broken.”

The players wanted to keep playing under the deal they negotiated under Upshaw’s leadership, and now that the owners have opted out of that deal, Brees says the players remain united.

“This fight was brought to us, and we feel like we were backed into a corner,” Brees said. “We’re trying to fight our way out of it.”

Michael David Smith wrote:




I lost a little respect for Drew Brees.
Zero2Cool
13 years ago
I wonder how much faster things would go along if the Players and Owners spent more time at the negotiating table, rather than jawing in front of a microphone.

The longer this goes, the more I struggle with the notion of continuing to pay for NFL Sunday Ticket.
wpr
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13 years ago
Drew is entitled to his opinion no matter how stupid it may be. If he wants to show his ignorance I suppose he can. I would have preferred that he kept it to himself.
Zero2Cool
13 years ago

Drew is entitled to his opinion no matter how stupid it may be. If he wants to show his ignorance I suppose he can. I would have preferred that he kept it to himself.

Originally Posted by: wpr 



That is true about him being entitled to his opinion and was never said otherwise. It's just a bit disheartening reading all of these comments when I personally feel they should be working out a deal to split up 8-9billion dollars instead.
Nonstopdrivel
13 years ago
That men can talk like little girls about being "slapped in the face" when they are making mind-blowing sums of money will never cease to amaze me.

People like to say that these players are worth whatever the market is willing to bear. They forget that there is only one credible market for these players: the NFL itself. If the market is no longer willing to pay them the extraordinary sums to which they have become accustomed, they are no longer worth that much. It is as simple as that.
Greg C.
13 years ago
It's pretty distasteful for Brees to make that accusation without a shred of evidence. And he's supposed to be one of the SMART players.
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wpr
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13 years ago

That is true about him being entitled to his opinion and was never said otherwise. It's just a bit disheartening reading all of these comments when I personally feel they should be working out a deal to split up 8-9billion dollars instead.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 




Zero I was not firing on you. I knew what you meant. It is disheartening. This all should have been settled before the lockout date was reached.
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beast (30-Dec) : Play or Rest*
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Zero2Cool (30-Dec) : Packers should be 3 - 2 in the Division. Bonkers being swept by both Lions and Vikings. yikes
go.pack.go. (30-Dec) : All crazy stuff…and good point beast
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go.pack.go. (30-Dec) : That would be dhazer who was rooting for Minnesota
beast (30-Dec) : Well, Commanders are currently the 6th seed and Packers the 7th
beast (30-Dec) : Who was it in Chat, that wanted the Vikings to win (because Lions fans upset them) because Packers could not lose the 6th seed?
beast (30-Dec) : If Falcons win, Packers stay as the 6th seed and Falcons lead the NFCS, if they lose, Commanders 6th and Bucs take NFCS lead
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