Is Ted messing with our minds?· Page 2

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

13 years ago

I am buying into the theory he moved down a lot late in the draft because he wanted to stockpile selections to makeup for zero undrafted free agent signings. I never really thought about that, but it is definitely a shrewd strategy.

"porky88" wrote:

I wonder if the draft just wasn't as stock piled with value selections and if that played a role in his trading down too.

millertime
Member

13 years ago

#12

The way I see it with Finley is like this. The Packers and him both want him to be the best TE in the game. He has the ability to. His health has been a concern (but he injured himself tackling a guy that was returning a Donald Lee fumble, IIRC).

If he can prove that he can stay healthy this year and produce like the best TE in the game, Ted will have no problem paying him what he is due. If you want the best, you have to pay.

It will really work best for both parties if he stays healthy and produces. It starts to get really hairy if he gets hurt or sees his targets drop...

Since69
Registered

13 years ago

#13

"Zero2Cool" wrote:

I wonder if the draft just wasn't as stock piled with value selections and if that played a role in his trading down too.

"porky88" wrote:

This, I think. This was a weak, middle-less draft. There wasn't a lot of value to be had in the 3rd, 4th and 5th rounds. Once the top-tier was gone the majority of the rest carried 6th or 7th round grades.

Yerko
Senior Member

13 years ago

#14

I'm just going to put this out there...I highly dislike the Finley FA talk. Agree with everything said, yes. But letting a player of this caliber go, no. His injuries have been unfortunate. If anything, the tight ends drafted (mainly DJ Williams) can serve as a message to Quarless and Finley, but mostly Quarless.

Wade
Veteran Member

13 years ago

#15

My biggest gripe with Finley is that he still owes Rock a glove.

I think he becomes a FA only if he becomes a head case a la Javon Walker, Terrell Owens, et al.

But only WRs and DBs ever reach that level of head case. And, fortunately, Finley just looks like a WR when running routes. He's still a TE, and therefore immune from total ga ga land.

And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, that you may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God.
Romans 12:2 (NKJV)

wpr
Preferred Member

13 years ago

#16

What?? You forget about me dog?

Kellen the Great

Greg C.
Registered Topic Starter

13 years ago

#17

Jeremy Shockey has some diva-like tendencies as well.

Finley worries me quite a bit. He's got a mouth on him.

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zombieslayer
Registered

13 years ago

#18

I disagree (sort of). I actually think Teddy went for anticipated need in this draft.

Sherrod - replace Ciffy in 2012
Cobb - James Jones/Driver replacement, and no more KR for Tramon
Green - good receiving back, replace BJack
2 TEs - Finley likely wants HUGE contract in 2012, so 3 horse race to fill that void
House - Woody done soon, Tramon/Sam 1-2, House a nickle?

I think it was a TREMENDOUS draft for stock piling and accounting for soon-to-be needs and like you said, we can still hopefully find some OLB help in UDFA.

Also, w/ virtually no picks aimed at DE, I wonder if this suggests we'll now make a run at keeping Jenkins OR we have a lot of faith in Neal and CJ Wilson.

"musccy" wrote:

Greg - He's got a good point here. We don't need QB. One wasn't drafted. Our #1 need was OL. We got 1 in the 1st round (our first pick) and a G later.

Then we had to give Aaron weapons. We got Cobb who is going to be a pretty good #2 or #3 WR (Gregorious was already our #1 last year). We got the 3rd down back because BJack may be gone (which is a bummer because I love his blocking ability). Then Finley's going to ask for big money and we got not one but 2 TEs just in case.

You pretty much pick up a DB every draft. Kind of an unwritten rule. We got one. You can never have too many DBs.

Yes, maybe it's coincidence that BPA happened to almost exactly equal our needs.

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Zero2Cool (3h) : sounds like Packers don't get good compensation, Jaire staying

dfosterf (6h) : Nobody coming up with a keep, but at x amount

dfosterf (6h) : Trade, cut or keep

dfosterf (8h) : that from Jaire

dfosterf (8h) : My guess is the Packers floated the concept of a reworked contract via his agent and agent got a f'

Zero2Cool (8h) : Yes, and that is why I think Rob worded it how he did. Rather than say "agent"

dfosterf (8h) : Same laws apply. Agent must present such an offer to Jaire. Cannot accept or reject without presenting it

Zero2Cool (8h) : I'm thinking that is why Rob worded it how he did.

dfosterf (8h) : The Packers can certainly still make the offer to the agent

dfosterf (8h) : Laws of agency and definition of fiduciary responsibility

dfosterf (8h) : Jaire is open to a reduced contract without Jaire's permission

dfosterf (8h) : The agent would arguably violate the law if he were to tell the Packers

Zero2Cool (8h) : That someone ... likely the agent.

Zero2Cool (8h) : So, Jaire has not been offered nor rejected a pay reduction, but someone says he'd decline.

Zero2Cool (8h) : Demovksy says t was direct communication with someone familiar with Jaire’s line of thinking at that moment.

Zero2Cool (9h) : Demovsky just replied to me a bit ago. Jaire hasn't said it.

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