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I think it would probably be best to either set him up at right of left tackle, with Bulaga at the other position, and let him develop. However, Thompson says he's not committing to that, so perhaps he can cover the guard position for a season? As long as he bulks up and improves, he should allow flexibility along the offensive line.

Wade, hush now!! =)

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Not yet.

I still want a big honking OG. Maybe Marcus Cannon or Ijafala.

Then a late round extra OL of any kind.

Then I'll hush. :)

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Wow Wade stayed up through the whole first round. Kudos to you. I am very impressed.



hmmm not sure what I think of this guy - my first reaction is Im not excited about him. Looks like some average joe-blow.

I suppose we need OL help and he was the next guy on the board at OL so thats whom we got ...

I like the bears pick just ahead of us better for their OL.

Id like to be proven wrong on this ... I have a feeling well have another lang here ... not that lang is bad but he didnt play much last year and isnt the best at the position.

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I had hoped that Carimi would fall to GB. That the Bears would stumbled and grab someone else. DE Bowers perhaps. Or better still TE Rudolph. He is fairly highly rated and has that ND connection that Chicago loves so much.

At 32 there seemed to be a pretty good selection of positions that GB could have filled. DE Bowers fell the farthest. Ayers would be the complementary quality OLB they lack. Williams may not be the strongest or fastest CB but he could grow into the nickle back after Woody hangs them up. Austin is a solid DT but I do not know if he is one who can play 3-4.
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I'm just happy that we likely won't have to worry about going through another Allen Barbre situation for quite a while.
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13 years ago

Not a road-graded.

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What does this mean exactly?
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Not a road-graded.

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What does this mean exactly?

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I guess the next sentence helps to explain it.

Not a road-graded. Won't get too much movement off the line.

Their words not mine.

Several other comments also mentioned that he is not a power blocker for the running game. That he won't drive the defender back. In other words Bart Starr would not be sneaking into the endzone behind him when the game is on the line.
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13 years ago
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QB sneak behind the left tackle, huh? Interesting.

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I knew someone would catch that. The other thing would be that Bart is too old of a fart to line up behind center. My point is the at least some of the experts don't feel that he can move the DL defender backward. Of course if he puts on a few more pounds of muscle it could change things.
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Ted Thompson certainly seems to have a knack for picking guys in the first round who don't have to come in and start right away. I like the way Green Bay seems not to put as much pressure on its first rounders as a lot of other teams do..

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This.

I was thinking this all night as teams like Atlanta and the Queens desperately scrambled for the money shot. Meanwhile knowing that no matter what T.T. does, it's going to make sense in the long run. And sure enough...we got a pick at 32 who was predicted to go earlier, and now we have an exit plan for Clifton when that time comes...which will be undoubtedly soon. Knowing our coaching staff I'd be on the glass half-full side of things in believing he'll be ready by then.

I agree with Twinkiegorilla.

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Making draft choices such as Mississippi State's Derek Sherrod are how top National Football League organizations stay on top for the long haul.

Twelve years after the Green Bay Packers drafted left tackle Chad Clifton with the 44th overall pick, the Packers landed his heir apparent Thursday night with the 32nd and final selection of the first round.

"I hope he's as good as Chad Clifton in terms of pass setting and doing what we want him to do," general manager Ted Thompson said. "We'll see. We're going to give him a chance to play, though."

Sherrod, 6 feet 5 inches and 315 pounds, is a three-year starter at left tackle in the Southeastern Conference just as Clifton was a four-year starter in the SEC for Tennessee.

Besides similar body types, personnel people said there are also similarities how Sherrod played compared to how the 34-year-old Clifton has played for 11 seasons in Green Bay.

Sherrod is regarded as more of an athletic player than a power player. By style, he probably fits better as a left tackle.

"He plays with good balance and base," Thompson said. "Hard to knock off his feet. He has ability to run block and cross over to pass block. We think he has a chance to be a complete player."

Somewhat surprisingly, Sherrod was the sixth tackle to be taken, although the Packers had him ranked several rungs higher. When Sherrod fell to Green Bay, Thompson said the mood in the draft room was jubilant.

"We were pretty happy," he said. "I feel OK. If you can get a quality big man I think you always lean that way."

Sherrod's bid to play early in his career and become a long-term player will be enhanced by his intelligence. He graduated, earned a 3.54-grade point average and scored 25 on the 50-question Wonderlic intelligence test.

That gives him the edge on Clifton, who has always required extra repetitions throughout his career as one of the most gifted pass blockers in the business.

When the Packers get back to playing football, the assumption is that Clifton will be at left tackle, Bulaga will be at right tackle and Sherrod will be stationed behind Clifton with the capability of playing both sides.

"I think either he or Bryan could play left tackle," said Thompson. "We'll kind of see. It just works itself out."

Thompson said he wouldn't rate Sherrod as a better athlete than Bulaga or Bulaga as a stronger player than Sherrod. On the bench press, Sherrod came up short with just 23 reps.

"We were surprised Bryan was there (23) where he was last year and we were kind of surprised Derek was still there," Thompson said.

They say the best time for a team to draft a left tackle is when they don't need one. The Packers didn't plan to start Bulaga as a rookie but when Mark Tauscher was injured he was there to offer solid performance at right tackle on a Super Bowl champion. Now the hope is that Sherrod can do the same if the oft-injured Clifton were to go down.

"I hope he's a 10-year player," said Thompson. "But I don't know if I'll be here then."

The selection of Sherrod undoubtedly means that T.J. Lang will play guard in his third season. He and Nick McDonald are expected to compete for the No. 1 job at left guard even if Daryn Colledge is resigned.

Marshall Newhouse, a fifth-round pick in 2010, might have the feet for left tackle and will go to camp as the No. 4 tackle. Tauscher almost certainly will not return.

Of the six top tackles, Sherrod's arm length of 35 3/8 inches ranked third longest and are about 2 inches longer than Bulaga's. His size-11 hands tied with Colorado's Nate Solder as the largest.

"He's a big, long guy," said Thompson. "I guess the other guys that took a left tackle would say their guy is the best. We liked how it turned out."

Thompson said he had some discussions from teams interested in acquiring the 32nd pick but nothing was serious in the last hour before the pick was made at 10:38 p.m.

"It never was close," he said. "There were some stupid deals offered to us."

Thompson said he was not offered a first- or second-round pick in 2012 in exchange for No. 32.

"Once it got to be our pick we were ready to go," he said.

Unlike the last two drafts, when the Packers traded up for linebacker Clay Matthews (first round) and safety Morgan Burnett (third round), they stood pat this time even though several players they liked slipped down the board.

Alabama running back Mark Ingram, a player that friends of Thompson said he had tremendous admiration for since last fall, fell all the way to 28 before NFC rival New Orleans traded up with New England to take him.

"I won't talk about that," Thompson said. "That player is on another team."

Meanwhile, Thompson bypassed Clemson's Da'Quan Bowers even though sources said the Packers had serious interest in him. The word was that the Packers planned to use Bowers as a third-down pass rusher while teaching him how to play right outside linebacker opposite Matthews.

In time, the feeling was that the 285-pound Bowers might have been able to bulk up and play end in the 3-4.

After the combine re-check two weeks ago, the doctors for just three teams flunked Bowers because of his post-operative knee. The Packers cleared Bowers, but there are degrees of clearance.

Having been stung by defensive tackle Justin Harrell and his multitude of injuries, Thompson decided against taking an explosive pass rusher in favor of the safer pick at perhaps an even greater position of need.

Asked if Bowers was a fit for the Packers' 3-4, Thompson replied, "It's part of the discussion we were having. It's debatable. But he's a good football player."


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I knew someone would catch that. The other thing would be that Bart is too old of a fart to line up behind center. My point is the at least some of the experts don't feel that he can move the DL defender backward. Of course if he puts on a few more pounds of muscle it could change things.

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He will hit the weight room hard, I think, as will all of our draft picks. It looks like he has some room for improvement there.

He seems to really absorb defenders' attacks well in the film. That's what I like to see. It's sort of an intangible quality. Tauscher is a blob but he was good for so many years because he was able to do this.
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He will hit the weight room hard, I think, as will all of our draft picks. It looks like he has some room for improvement there.

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I expect nothing less from these young men than to get into "NFL shape". They won't have any easy games like they did in college.
Last year Miss St faced Memphis 1-11, the feared Alcorn St 5-6, Houston 5-7, UAB 4-8. In state rival Ole Miss 4-8 and of course Michigan . :blackeye:
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