Zero2Cool
13 years ago

Still the players weren't asking for much. In fact they kind of wanted to keep the CBA the same. It's the owners that were pretty much settled beforehand on going into the lockout.

"djcubez" wrote:



I've leaned more towards the owners than the players. The players admitted the CBA favored them greatly. However, I do think the owners need to vastly improve coverage of the retired players health benefits and a few other things. And from their last proposal, I seen many of those things addressed and yet that still wasn't good enough for the players. The players make an extraordinary amount of money. I mean players making 8 million a year are bitching about "how am i supposed to provide for my family?!". I say ask any one of the MILLIONS of fans that make 5 figures that manage to support their families everyday how.

On the flipside, hearing about owners having their own personal jet's, a hired assistant that does nothing but get them their coffee, and whatever else is just absurd.

Maybe I'm too black/white, but I feel settling on a percentage for the players, retired players and owners should be far easier than it's appearing to be.


I just do not get how Players and Owners can not agree how to spend 9 BILLION dollars.

Players	43.0%	$3,87 billion	$120,937,500.00 / salary cap per team
Retired	2.0%	$1.8 billion	$5,625,000.00 / benefits set aside for retired players
Owners	55.0%	$4.95 billion	$154,687,500.00 / money to maintain, run, operate team

There, sounds fair to me, play ball!
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Pack93z
13 years ago


Still the players weren't asking for much. In fact they kind of wanted to keep the CBA the same. It's the owners that were pretty much settled beforehand on going into the lockout.

"djcubez" wrote:



Here is my take.. when the CBA was last negotiated.. the players agreed to the opt out the owners took.

So that left it open to open negotiations.

Meaning that they needed to look at the current state of the economic landscape and adjusting the terms of the CBA.

Instead.. they took a hard stand and refused to negotiate new terms.. now I will agree that they had the right to justification of allowing more money to be filtered off before applying the split.. but the simple fact in my eyes and what I read up before the March 11th meltdown is that both sides didn't actively and openly discussed a new CBA.. one side clung to the last CBA and couldn't adjust in the players.. and the owners clung to their closed books stance and refused to present evidence of why the 1 billion before the split needed to be upped and keeping their books closed.

Then, if with a nudge from the courts.. couldn't actively negotiate a contract.. citing instead a conflict of schedule with the judge. Now... wouldn't you think that Nelson would have appointed a judge with an open docket instead of a judge that could only participate for a couple of days?

So I stick with my closing thoughts in the first post.. F$#@'em both.
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Formo
13 years ago


Players 43.0% $3,87 billion $120,937,500.00 / salary cap per team
Retired 2.0% $1.8 billion $5,625,000.00 / benefits set aside for retired players
Owners 55.0% $4.95 billion $154,687,500.00 / money to maintain, run, operate team

"Zero2Cool" wrote:



I'm assuming that is supposed to say 'billion'.. 🙂
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Zero2Cool
13 years ago


Players 43.0% $3,87 billion $120,937,500.00 / salary cap per team
Retired 2.0% $1.8 billion $5,625,000.00 / benefits set aside for retired players
Owners 55.0% $4.95 billion $154,687,500.00 / money to maintain, run, operate team

"Formo" wrote:



I'm assuming that is supposed to say 'billion'.. =)

"Zero2Cool" wrote:



I did something the Players and NFL couldn't do and that's all you could add?
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