CaliforniaCheez
13 years ago
There can be no lock out because there is no CBA.

There is no CBA because the Union willfully decertified.

All players must be dealt with individually.

There can be no collusion amongst teams so it is wide open and wild on the labor front.

Long snappers and other players are only required to make state minimum wage. No NFL minimum salary. Rookies can be signed for as little as they can get.

No cap; no floor.

No more drafts.

Ted can only get younger and cheaper as he snags players out of college programs.


ALL UNION PROTECTIONS AND PENSIONS ARE GONE.

There is no more union so the NFL teams can no longer cooperate on issues as that would be an anti-trust law violation.
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earthquake
13 years ago
Nothing will actually happen just yet, from what I understand. It will be appealed, possibly in multiple courts, before any real action begins.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/04/25/report-judge-nelson-lifts-lockout/#comments 


As expected, a ruling on the players motion to lift the lockout came Monday.

As expected, the ruling favors the players.

Chris Mortensen of ESPN reports that Judge Nelson has issued a ruling in favor of the players. The NFL reportedly will seek an immediate stay of the implementation of the decision.

If the stay is granted, the lockout would not be lifted until, at the earliest, after the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Eighth Circuit issues a ruling in the case. The players surely would request expedited consideration of the appeal.

If Judge Nelson refuses to grant the stay, the NFL surely would seek a stay from the appeals court.

If neither court gives the league the stay, the doors will be forced open, soon.

In the short term, its good news for the fans. If the ruling stands, the season will occur as scheduled. And maybe folks will even give a crap about the draft.

Meanwhile, if the ruling stands the NFL will at some point have to come up with rules for 2011 regarding free agency and the salary cap, if any. Those rules likely would then be challenged by the players as antitrust violations.

All that said, there could be important exceptions and details and nuances in Judge Nelsons written ruling. Were in the process of getting our hands on it. Well then break it all down in order to best understand why the decision was reached, whether it will be susceptible to appeal, and what it all means to you (and us), the fans of football.



Edit, reading a bit more, I may be wrong. Is it beginning now? wtf wtf?
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Porforis
13 years ago
This ruling by itself means nothing. it's going to be appealed.
gbguy20
13 years ago

There can be no lock out because there is no CBA.

There is no CBA because the Union willfully decertified.

All players must be dealt with individually.

There can be no collusion amongst teams so it is wide open and wild on the labor front.

Long snappers and other players are only required to make state minimum wage. No NFL minimum salary. Rookies can be signed for as little as they can get.

No cap; no floor.

No more drafts.

Ted can only get younger and cheaper as he snags players out of college programs.


ALL UNION PROTECTIONS AND PENSIONS ARE GONE.

There is no more union so the NFL teams can no longer cooperate on issues as that would be an anti-trust law violation.

"CaliforniaCheez" wrote:



this is terrible
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dhazer
13 years ago
They were just saying it is being appealed but a ruling could be as soon as tomorrow and free agency and trading could start the day of the draft 🙂 Lets trade this years first back to the Panthers for their 1st next year :)

I say trade it to anyone that needs a qb and get their 1st next year because they will still suck and we could end up with the #1 and #32 🙂
Just Imagine this for the next 6-9 years. What a ride it will be 🙂 (PS, Zero should charge for this)
UserPostedImage
13 years ago
It was my understanding that they would fall back on last year's rules regarding the draft, FA, etc...
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Wade
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13 years ago
I have two knee-jerk reactions, neither one with any basis in evidence, ones that together make me look more bow-legged than a life-long cowboy.

1. Expecting any Obama appointee to issue anything other than a pro-union decision is naive.

2. It's nice to see the really rich bastards (owners of pro sport teams) sweating. (See the other thread on the Dodger owners that I started.)
And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, that you may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God.
Romans 12:2 (NKJV)
doddpower
13 years ago

2. It's nice to see the really rich bastards (owners of pro sport teams) sweating. (See the other thread on the Dodger owners that I started.)

"Wade" wrote:



But of course we couldn't do ANYTHING that might stifle the rich in any capacity as they are the ones that are kind enough to employ and pay us! We must ensure they have every bit of their wealth so that a fraction can find it's way down to us plebeians!

:whipitgood:
Zero2Cool
13 years ago
Players are a lot easier to find and replace than owners. If the owners are not making money, they will lose interest in owning a team.
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DakotaT
13 years ago
F-it, bring back Feudalism; I'm itching to serve these masters of industry - with my hear, liver, and kidneys if they need them.

I've always been on the players side in this argument. And I am not one of those Asstards that's naive enough to compare my salary to that of a gifted professional athlete. I hope they crucify those 31 affluent in courts. We Packer owners will just go along.

It doesn't even bother me that retards like Tommy Lee and Vince Neil are millionaires and get all the underserved fantasy tail.
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