"Most people dont know what theyre talking about"

Zero2Cool
Elite Member Topic Starter

14 years ago

Ted Thompson on the draft: Most people dont know what theyre talking about

Theres a cottage industry of experts on the NFL draft at this time of year who are only too happy to pontificate on every players strengths and every teams needs.

The general manager of this years Super Bowl winner suggests you not listen to those experts.

Theres a lot of interest in the draft, Green Bay General Manager Ted Thompson said, via Peter Kings Monday Morning Quarterback. Its great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it dont know anything about what they are talking about.

Thompson may be right, but the funny thing is that its not just most of the people commenting on the draft who dont know what theyre doing: Its many of the people conducting the draft, too. Its not the experts who made JaMarcus Russell the first overall pick or Tom Brady a sixth-round pick, it was NFL general managers.

And it wasnt a draft expert who took Justin Harrell in the first round in 2007. It was Thompson.

"Michael David Smith" wrote:

Quote of the Week III

"There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about.''
-- Green Bay GM Ted Thompson, who has a right to say what he wants about the Mayock/Kiper/McShay set because he just won the Super Bowl. But have a couple of bad drafts, or pick a couple more Justin Harrells and Brian Brohms, and you might hear the geniuses come out of the woodwork on Thompson.

"Peter King" wrote:

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bozz_2006
Registered

14 years ago

I just saw that too and it kind of pisses me off. I'm pretty sure I read that article with that quote in it some time last week. And I'm pretty sure Thompson goes on to say something to the effect of "Hell, I get paid to do this full time and I don't even know what I'm doing half the time..." Leave it to Florio to editorialize and completely miss the point.

DakotaT
Select Member

14 years ago

Florio is a douchebag Viking fan - I don't take his comments personally, just consider the source.

Since69
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14 years ago

He's exactly right. 90% of the draft gurus on the internet are basement-dwellers regurgitating other basement-dweller's stuff.

Zero2Cool
Elite Member Topic Starter

14 years ago

I think it was Michael David Smith that wrote the article, not Mike Florio.

wpr
Preferred Member

14 years ago

Uncle Teddy doesn't know what he is talking about? :shock:
That is a stupid beyond words.
Ted knew that Justin was a reach when he took him. It was a high risk high reward scenario. He was comfortable with the move. He actually has proven himself correct by making the move. Not because Harrell is some kind of phenom. But because he could take the gamble, have it not pan out and still win the SB.

It is hilarious for someone to point to one draft pick in order to "prove" that even GMs don't know everything about players. I have never heard any of the more successful GMs say they know everything about these college kids. But one thing is for certain, they know a whole lot more than the guys who sit behind the camera, typewriter or key board.

Wade
Veteran Member

14 years ago

I find I read Florio less and less all the time.

I used to read him because he was good at gathering rumors and news tidbits that I couldnt find anywhere else.

Now he's content with being a third rate editorialist/talking head. And we already have far too many of those.

If I want airhead commentary, I'll watch FoxNews. At least their airheads have nice legs and short skirts.

And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, that you may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God.
Romans 12:2 (NKJV)

Zero2Cool
Elite Member Topic Starter

14 years ago

Why does Mike Florio keep getting a mention? He didn't write this article guys! :)

And the Packers would have won the Super Bowl if they didn't blow their 2007 first round pick. I'm miffed off to the max bout that one.

Since69
Registered

14 years ago

I mean... I follow the draft, as do many of the members here. I consider myself pretty knowledgeable when it comes to football, and I know many of you are even more so.

How many of have been able to second-guess Ted with any consistency? If you're not actually in the business, you only think you have a clue.

"You think you know, but you don't know. And you never will."

Wade
Veteran Member

14 years ago

#10

Why does Mike Florio keep getting a mention? He didn't write this article guys! :)

"Zero2Cool" wrote:

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Because some of us think PFT = Mike Florio + people hired by Mike Florio.

And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, that you may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God.
Romans 12:2 (NKJV)

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