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14 years ago

Without Nick Collins, Charles Woodson and Tramon Williams, ... Sam Shields wouldn't be discussed by anyone.

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14 years ago

I read somewhere, if we had 3 Sam Shields back in the secondary, we would be ranked about 14th in the league in opponents QB rating.

Considering he is a nickle back behind Tramon Williams and Charles Woodson, thats pretty impressive. Throw in the fact he is a rookie, it is astounding. Throw in that he was an un-drafted FA that only played CB for one year in college, it starts to sound like a fantasy.

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We put. I was very happy when we signed Shields because of his speed and potential. You can't teach speed, but you can teach technique and scheme. I was hoping in 2-3 years he could contribute and in 3-4 years he would be a decent/good CB. So he is about 3 years ahead of my schedule!

"Dexter_Sinister" wrote:



SOMETIMES technique and scheme can be taught. There have been a whole lot of players that have come through the Green and Gold doors that didn't pan out because they could not learn the proper NFL technique even though they were higher draft picks.
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14 years ago

I read somewhere, if we had 3 Sam Shields back in the secondary, we would be ranked about 14th in the league in opponents QB rating.

Considering he is a nickle back behind Tramon Williams and Charles Woodson, thats pretty impressive. Throw in the fact he is a rookie, it is astounding. Throw in that he was an un-drafted FA that only played CB for one year in college, it starts to sound like a fantasy.

"wpr" wrote:



We put. I was very happy when we signed Shields because of his speed and potential. You can't teach speed, but you can teach technique and scheme. I was hoping in 2-3 years he could contribute and in 3-4 years he would be a decent/good CB. So he is about 3 years ahead of my schedule!

"PackerTraxx" wrote:



SOMETIMES technique and scheme can be taught. There have been a whole lot of players that have come through the Green and Gold doors that didn't pan out because they could not learn the proper NFL technique even though they were higher draft picks.

"Dexter_Sinister" wrote:



True, that's why I said it can be taught, it can also be learned - that doesn't mean it will be. Speed can't be taught or learned.
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14 years ago


True, that's why I said it can be taught, it can also be learned - that doesn't mean it will be. Speed can't be taught or learned.

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Yeah, I was trying to be a pain in the butt. They can't teach speed. Either you have it or you don't. Those that do may not know how to best utilize it but the have it. Sam used his pretty well to cover up some of his mistakes this year.

Over the years it has been disappointing to see how many guys failed when it comes to learning how to use what they are being taught.
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14 years ago
The other thing that is hard to teach is instincts. Shields has that in abundance.
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