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Zero2Cool
Elite Member

13 years ago

I see what you're saying Zero, but I think it goes too far. And it's not like a good QB covering up an average receiving corps. Shields was likely challenged even more because of Collins, Woodson, and Williams.

"bozz_2006" wrote:

Sam Shields wasn't challenged that much because often times he was covering the 3rd or 4th WR on a team.

I like Shields, and a lot, liked him from the get go (as a returner), but I think some are too high on him.

I do agree with the title, I think he is a star in the making, I just disagree that he's one right now.

Towards the end of the season, he was covering the 2 quite a bit ... specifically the last two regular season games and I think he did well.

bozz_2006
Registered

13 years ago

#22

That's just not true. For much of the season he was playing outside corner with Woodson in the slot. Our CBs moved around a lot. When Woodson played slot, are you going to say he wasn't challenged because he wasn't playing man coverage on the team's #1 WR? I'm not saying Shields is perfect, but you're not giving him credit for the things he did.

He played outside, meaning he covered ones and twos, quite often.
And being a primarily zone team, none of our guys are on an island. They perform as a unit. They either succeed as a unit or fail as a unit. And much like the offensive line, our secondary is truly only as strong as the weakest link. Perhaps Shields was the weakest link. If this is what happens with Shields as the weak link, I'll take it.

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

13 years ago

#23

I must have missed it then. Packers play zone so how can we say one player is doing well if Tramon and Woodson and Collins could be picking up his slack?

DakotaT
Select Member

13 years ago

#24

I must have missed it then. Packers play zone so how can we say one player is doing well if Tramon and Woodson and Collins could be picking up his slack?

"Zero2Cool" wrote:

You need to quit sniffing Barry's jockstrap and watch our games more closely. There is still a lot of bump and run coverage being played along with the zone coverages.

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

13 years ago

#25

You need to quit sniffing Barry's jockstrap and watch our games more closely. There is still a lot of bump and run coverage being played along with the zone coverages.

"DakotaT" wrote:

Sniff it? It's my hat, foo! :)

Just like some are quick to put down, hey Packers have JerMichael Finley next year, they'll be unstoppable! ... I need to see consistency and reliability first.

Wade
Veteran Member

13 years ago

#26

Hey, Barry Sanders entire body isn't as big as Achmed's head...how could his jockstrap be that big?

And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, that you may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God.
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bozz_2006
Registered

13 years ago

#27

I don't know if he'll be able to sustain it next season, but he was consistent and reliable the whole past season.

millertime
Member

13 years ago

#28

The passing metrics against Shields were pretty impressive if I remember. The fact remains that we got starter level production out of undrafted free agent who had only been playing the position for a couple years. He has all the physical tools in the world and great mentors and coaches around him. I fully can see him developing into a star CB alongside Tramon for the next couple of years.

I guarantee you that if we redid the draft, he'd be at least a 2nd round pick, maybe higher. Chris Cook or Sam Shields?

I'll take Shields.

DakotaT
Select Member

13 years ago

#29

"millertime" wrote:

Man it's easy to pick on the Vikings. Zingers left and right. What does it say about our drafting and coaches that you have two starting caliber corners who were started their careers as undrafted free agents?

Dexter_Sinister
Registered

13 years ago

#30

I read somewhere, if we had 3 Sam Shields back in the secondary, we would be ranked about 14th in the league in opponents QB rating.

Considering he is a nickle back behind Tramon Williams and Charles Woodson, thats pretty impressive. Throw in the fact he is a rookie, it is astounding. Throw in that he was an un-drafted FA that only played CB for one year in college, it starts to sound like a fantasy.

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Not screaming in terror like his passengers.

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