Kingkoopa
13 years ago

Solid backup likely is more valuable than a high draft pick


Indianapolis If coach Mike McCarthy has his way, quarterback Matt Flynn isn't going anywhere in the foreseeable future.

The Green Bay Packers have won one National Football League championship, will be gunning for others in the next few years and appear to want a player rated as possibly the National Football League's finest backup more than the high draft choice they could obtain in a trade.

"That's exactly right," McCarthy said at the NFL scouting combine over the weekend. "I'm not letting him go. I think the value of that No. 2 quarterback position went way up."

Let's say the off-season program is lost league-wide because of the labor dispute. Let's say training camp is shortened as well.

In that scenario, a player such as Flynn, who has three seasons in the same offensive system, would be extremely valuable because he wouldn't suffer from lack of preparation.

At the same time, McCarthy is well aware that Aaron Rodgers suffered two concussions last season.

"Man, they're talking about new procedures for concussions and things like that," McCarthy said. "You better have two quarterbacks if you want to win a championship."

Flynn, 25, has a year remaining on his original four-year contract.

Under the old collective bargaining agreement, Flynn would become a restricted free agent in March because he has three accrued seasons. Players with four or more accrued seasons would become unrestricted free agents.

Last season, after the owners opted out of the CBA, the requirement for unrestricted free agency increased to six seasons, and players with three to five years were lumped together as restricted.

Clearly, Flynn would like to become a starter, and unless Rodgers suffered a debilitating injury he wouldn't have that chance in Green Bay. It remains to be seen what a new agreement would mean for free agency, but McCarthy was adamant about his plans to keep Flynn as long as possible.

The Packers could trade Flynn, of course, and with up to 10 teams needing a quarterback he has to be a most attractive commodity.

When Rodgers went down in Detroit, Flynn made a respectable, though losing, debut. The next week, he posted a 100.2 passer rating against the unpredictable defensive scheme of New England coach Bill Belichick in a 31-27 defeat.

In all, Flynn played 146 snaps and had a passer rating of 82.4.

It remains to be seen how general manager Ted Thompson and McCarthy would respond if a team offered a first-round draft choice. Compensation short of a first-round pick probably wouldn't dissuade them from retaining Flynn.

The third quarterback on the roster is Graham Harrell, a Canadian Football League refugee from Texas Tech. After being released on the final cut in early September, Harrell was promoted from the practice squad before the Patriots game.

"I think he has a chance. Absolutely," McCarthy said. "When's the last time we carried three quarterbacks? Not since my first or second year here. There's a reason why we kept that kid around here."

The so-called "quarterback school" conducted by position coach Tom Clements and McCarthy each year from March to June, an ideal opportunity for an undeveloped player such as Harrell to grow, will be a casualty during the expected lockout.



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nerdmann
13 years ago
Too bad he can't return punts.
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
go.pack.go.
13 years ago
How about trading Flynn and the 32nd pick to say Arizona for their 1st pick and we draft Von Miller?

Not saying that's the best option but Von Miller has the potential to be the next Demarcus Ware. Imagine him lined up beside CM3.
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wpr
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13 years ago
Being in insurance, I love the idea of having a quality back up JUST IN CASE.
After seeing GB decimated by injuries this year they definitely need to make sure they have a plan B at the QB position especially since they will be going to an 18 game schedule.
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go.pack.go.
13 years ago

Being in insurance, I love the idea of having a quality back up JUST IN CASE.
After seeing GB decimated by injuries this year they definitely need to make sure they have a plan B at the QB position especially since they will be going to an 18 game schedule.

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I seriously doubt that there will be an 18 game schedule next season.
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13 years ago

Being in insurance, I love the idea of having a quality back up JUST IN CASE.
After seeing GB decimated by injuries this year they definitely need to make sure they have a plan B at the QB position especially since they will be going to an 18 game schedule.

"go.pack.go." wrote:



I seriously doubt that there will be an 18 game schedule next season.

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I doubt it too. Maybe in 2012. I was just curious to see how many people would comment on it.
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bboystyle (23-Dec) : yes its possible but unlikely. If we do get the 5th, we face the NFCS winner
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : Ahh, ok.
bboystyle (23-Dec) : yes due to tie breaker
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I mean, unlikely, yes, but mathematically, 5th is possible by what I'm reading.
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : If Vikings lose out, Packers win out, Packers get 5th, right?
bboystyle (23-Dec) : Minny isnt going to lose out so 5th seed is out of the equation. We are playing for the 6th or 7th seed which makes no difference
Mucky Tundra (23-Dec) : beast, the ad revenue goes to the broadcast company but they gotta pay to air the game on their channel/network
beast (23-Dec) : If we win tonight the game is still relative in terms of 5th, 6th or 7th seed... win and it's 5th or 6th, lose and it's 6th or 7th
beast (23-Dec) : Mucky, I thought the ad revenue went to the broadcasting companies or the NFL, at least not directly
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I think the revenue share is moot, isn't it? That's the CBA an Salary Cap handling that.
bboystyle (23-Dec) : i mean game becomes irrelevant if we win tonight. Just a game where we are trying to play spoilers to Vikings chance at the #1 seed
Mucky Tundra (23-Dec) : beast, I would guess ad revenue from more eyes watching tv
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I would think it would hurt the home team because people would have to cancel last minute maybe? i dunno
beast (23-Dec) : I agree that it's BS for fans planning on going to the game. But how does it bring in more money? I'm guessing indirectly?
packerfanoutwest (23-Dec) : bs on flexing the game....they do it for the $$league$$, not the hometown fans
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