Pack93z
13 years ago

Bottom line is this: which defense in the league right now can stop that Green Bay passing attack?

Answer: None. This offense will require that a whole new type of defense be created that can cover 4 or 5 good receivers and give a strong pass rush. That defense will need real cover corners and safeties; and lots of them. Think Miami can stop the full Green Bay attack? Well, the team that can at least slow that offense will be in the Super Bowl next year (provided the CBA gets worked-out and we get to enjoy a season). And you can pretty much take that to the bank.

"get_louder_at_lambeau" wrote:




This is such bullshit.. the Lions did it late in the season. The Bears did it basically twice in a couple weeks.

Our weakness was and still is our offensive line.. attack that effectively and you will hamper our offense... once you establish that press play inside and take away the slants and make Rodgers hold the ball for a couple beats as he waits for the receivers to work open on the edges.. and hit him if you can.

At times we abandoned the run.. so force the Packers to run the ball and take your chances.

The Author makes it sound like the Packers offense is the best thing since sliced bread.. and there is no doubt they can be deadly if you don't have 3 deep at the corners with a safety that can cover in a more man setting.. and a defense that can rush the passer effectively.. and we will not be as effective as games like the SB or Atlanta...

The issues with the Steelers and the Falcons are depth at corner and suspect Safety play in coverage as well.

Falcons are already making moves to solidify their issues vs the Packers.. make no mistake others will as well.
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bozz_2006
13 years ago
Agreed. The reason the Packers were able to run the table at the end of the season is that no teams were effective enough at making Rodgers get rid of the ball sooner than he'd like to and/or hold onto the ball longer than he'd like to.
UserPostedImage
13 years ago

Bottom line is this: which defense in the league right now can stop that Green Bay passing attack?

Answer: None. This offense will require that a whole new type of defense be created that can cover 4 or 5 good receivers and give a strong pass rush. That defense will need real cover corners and safeties; and lots of them. Think Miami can stop the full Green Bay attack? Well, the team that can at least slow that offense will be in the Super Bowl next year (provided the CBA gets worked-out and we get to enjoy a season). And you can pretty much take that to the bank.

"Pack93z" wrote:


"get_louder_at_lambeau" wrote:



This is such bullshit.. the Lions did it late in the season. The Bears did it basically twice in a couple weeks.



This is how the Lions did it-

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/09000d5d81cd41c6/Lions-Spievey-gets-lucky-INT 

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/09000d5d81cd4963/Rodgers-suffers-concussion 

So Detroit's special recipe for stopping the Packer offense is to let Jennings beat you deep for what should be an easy TD, and hope the ball bounces out of his hands right into the hands of the safety he beat deep, and when Rodgers runs for 20 yards on you, make sure he gets a concussion. Quite the unique blueprint. Might be hard to duplicate though.

As for the Bears, they did pretty well in Week 17, partially due to a big Jennings drop and a Rodgers INT that could have been called incomplete. The Packers had 284 yards of offense (320 with defensive penalty yardage added). Bulaga also struggled badly with penalties in this game.

In the NFCC, allowing 356 yards of offense isn't exactly shutting them down (409 yards including their defensive penalties). Being down 14-0 after 19 minutes of football isn't exactly the sign of a dominant defensive performance either.

Another bounce-off-the-WR-into the-defender's-hands INT was part of their genius plan too. They must have learned that from Detroit. Peppers contributed with a helmet to helmet hit on Rodgers that may have given him a slight concussion again, and he wasn't very effective after that. Urlacher's goal line pick was pretty impressive though, and they toughened up at the end of the game with Rodgers off on his passes after the "possible concussion" hit.

I guess the key to "stopping" the Packers offense is getting an INT after the ball bounces off a WR's hands and making Rodgers' head hit something hard.
nerdmann
13 years ago
Bullshit. We lost to the Lions, because Arodge went down. AND Jennings ally-ooped a sure TD to the other team. As for the Bears, well not only do they know us, but more importantly, we play them on grass.
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earthquake
13 years ago
Jeez am I glad the packers won the superbowl. Had that Jennings drop kept GB out of the playoffs I think I would be slitting my wrists watching that replay, looking at it now its just comical. Like some terrible three stooges bit.
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Pack93z
13 years ago
Crock.. the Lions were abusing the Packers up front prior to the Rodgers getting hurt.. sure Jennings dropped the ball.. and our defense kept us in the game all day long.

But to claim the Lions didn't shut us down is disrespectful to the play of the Lions front that game.

Last time I checked.. drops are part of the game, along with cold weather in the Chitown games.. nice dismissal of the week 17 performance by the way. Bravo..

The Packers earned there way to the postseason and earned their way to the Superbowl.. no question and I am not trying to discredit that.

What I am saying is the author is incorrect in saying that no defenses in the NFL can contain the Packers offense.. that is false. It was done multiple times this season.

Lucky INT's.... really that is the best you can do.. if so.. go check out the INT's the Packers had vs the Jets. PART.OF.THE.GAME.

For the record.. I suppose the Jets just got lucky as well. 🙂
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bozz_2006
13 years ago


So Detroit's special recipe for stopping the Packer offense is to let Jennings beat you deep for what should be an easy TD, and hope the ball bounces out of his hands right into the hands of the safety he beat deep, and when Rodgers runs for 20 yards on you, make sure he gets a concussion. Quite the unique blueprint. Might be hard to duplicate though.

"get_louder_at_lambeau" wrote:



LOL! Nice.
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Greg C.
13 years ago

Bottom line is this: which defense in the league right now can stop that Green Bay passing attack?

Answer: None. This offense will require that a whole new type of defense be created that can cover 4 or 5 good receivers and give a strong pass rush. That defense will need real cover corners and safeties; and lots of them. Think Miami can stop the full Green Bay attack? Well, the team that can at least slow that offense will be in the Super Bowl next year (provided the CBA gets worked-out and we get to enjoy a season). And you can pretty much take that to the bank.

"get_louder_at_lambeau" wrote:


"Pack93z" wrote:



This is such bullshit.. the Lions did it late in the season. The Bears did it basically twice in a couple weeks.

"get_louder_at_lambeau" wrote:



This is how the Lions did it-

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/09000d5d81cd41c6/Lions-Spievey-gets-lucky-INT 

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/09000d5d81cd4963/Rodgers-suffers-concussion 

So Detroit's special recipe for stopping the Packer offense is to let Jennings beat you deep for what should be an easy TD, and hope the ball bounces out of his hands right into the hands of the safety he beat deep, and when Rodgers runs for 20 yards on you, make sure he gets a concussion. Quite the unique blueprint. Might be hard to duplicate though.

As for the Bears, they did pretty well in Week 17, partially due to a big Jennings drop and a Rodgers INT that could have been called incomplete. The Packers had 284 yards of offense (320 with defensive penalty yardage added). Bulaga also struggled badly with penalties in this game.

In the NFCC, allowing 356 yards of offense isn't exactly shutting them down (409 yards including their defensive penalties). Being down 14-0 after 19 minutes of football isn't exactly the sign of a dominant defensive performance either.

Another bounce-off-the-WR-into the-defender's-hands INT was part of their genius plan too. They must have learned that from Detroit. Peppers contributed with a helmet to helmet hit on Rodgers that may have given him a slight concussion again, and he wasn't very effective after that. Urlacher's goal line pick was pretty impressive though, and they toughened up at the end of the game with Rodgers off on his passes after the "possible concussion" hit.

I guess the key to "stopping" the Packers offense is getting an INT after the ball bounces off a WR's hands and making Rodgers' head hit something hard.



Nice job removing the plays that don't conform to your theory that the Packer offense is unstoppable. You still have some more explaining to do, though. The Packers scored 17 against the Bears early in the season, 13 against the Redskins, 9 against the Jets, and 17 against the Falcons.

I love this team and I love this offense--they won the Super Bowl!--but it's not like they're the first team to have a really good quarterback and good depth at WR. What I dislike most about this kind of overpraise is that when the team does not score 30 points a game, some fans start thinking they are a bunch of idiots who can't get out of their own way. But it's hard to score a lot of points every week. It's good enough for me that the Packers have one of the best offenses in the league, and with Finley returning from his injury, they could be even better next year. But I don't see them as revolutionary by any means.
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nerdmann
13 years ago
Their offensive system is not revolutionary. It's low percentage, down-the-field passing. What is revolutionary is the talent depth and level. That is on Ted, not Mike.
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DakotaT
13 years ago
That was some sweet satire from GLAL. He's getting double applaud for that awesomeness.

I think what you'll forget is with Grant and Starks running next year, along with double tight ends with Finley and Quarless and my secret weapon Sweet Sidney Rice being stolen from the Queens to have a 5 deep WR set; this offense will be unstoppable.
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