Which is exactly my problem with this video. It's completely obvious he's just trying to put a bad face on the all the protesters with this video. If he really cared about the memorial why didn't he just respectfully ask them to take them down and stated his reasons? He didn't have to bring a camera and attack the people that made an ignorant mistake.

what a joke!

You know, kind of like every protester there. But it's an agenda you agree with, so suddenly it's okay but the camera guy's agenda is evil ;)

Oh, and thanks for completely derailing this topic.

Well of course everyone has their own agenda. It just so happens that a lot of people have a certain aspect in common on their agendas and have gathered together in that aspect.

I have no problem with either person's opinion in this situation. Both parties have the right to voice and hold their opinions. However I disagree with the way the guy with the camera approached the situation. He seemed to be antagonizing the protesters and trying to get a rise out of them. He seemed to be trying to create a scene or solicit a negative reaction.

The protesters were very much innocently and peacefully going about their business and were not putting the posters on the memorial to deliberately disrespect it. The person with the camera was obviously trying to make it seem that that was the case. He was blatantly trying to shed a negative light on what has been a very positive protest.

If anyone I agreed with were to employ these tactics I would be ashamed to have to be associated with them.

Of course the guy wanted to drum things up , it got posted on youtube so there was some intent there to portray things in a specific light. But as far as his reaction goes, I really don't think it was unreasonable or not indicative of someone who is legitimately offended.

He was offended, asked if they realized it was a war memorial, and was pretty much told to piss off when he asked them to take it down. As for the whole argument with the lady over memorials, if I was arguing with someone who refused to stop doing something I found to be deeply disrespectful who suddenly said "Well, I make _____" for a living I'd find it awfully suspect.

How was he supposed to go about this? "Hi, do you realize this is a war memorial? I find it offensive that you'd cover it up. No, you don't think so? Okay, can you please take it down? No? Please? Please?". The fact of the matter is that when you offend someone, intentionally or not, people are going to be upset. If you give this guy the benefit of the doubt, I think he showed a lot of restraint.

Theyre guilty of being stubborn and stupid. The intent was not to cause any harm or disrespect the memorial. I wasn't there, so maybe the video isn't a good representation of their intent. But based on what I saw in this eight-minute video, I don't think they meant to disrespect.

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Of course they were dumb. If they were smart they wouldn't have posted political messages all over a war memorial. Stupidity is no excuse.

Negligence/ignorance isn't really an excuse in this case, although that falls more into the realm of opinion. Regardless, one would need to be pretty thick to take a look at a war memorial, then put posters on top of it without even thinking that "Hey, maybe this is kind of disrespectful". You just don't cover up memorials of any kind, period.

Interesting that the two of you, on opposing sides of the issue, have both managed to tick me off.

Porforis, your disclaimer doesn't cut it.
I did not see/hear anywhere in that video anything about any of them being "Democrats". Not that that matters.
You are obviously of the Rush Limbaugh ilk and lump all Democrats in one category.
Your brief statement, sans "disclaimer" insinuates that I have no class...
I am a Democrat.
I am a Veteran.
I am a combat Veteran, wounded in action, but that is nothing compared to the friends that I saw killed around me.
Thank you....


djcubez
What you said really pisses me off. You have no fucking idea what these memorials mean to so many, many people.
I saw a very good friend of mine die in April of 1971 in a firefight in a shithole called Vietnam.
He was a couple of months short of his 21st birthday, and left behind an 18 month old daughter.
His name is on the Wall in Washington DC.
If I were there and you hung a protest sign of any kind on the memorial to him and the thousands of others, I would end up in jail.
Cause even at my age, I would go fucking ballistic on your ass.


These people have every right to protest, it is exactly one of the basic freedoms and rights that some of my friends and so many others fought and died for.
But they must remember and respect those who gave their all for that right.

As far as who is responsible that video, Ann Althouse is a twit.

hmmm talked to my mom about the protests the other day. Shes a school teacher in illinois (was in wisconsin). I think she supports em; and she voted republican the last couple of elections.

I find politics a little 'amusing' ... seems when there are actions done by the government there always appears to be another agenda then the one that is presented.

Like I have to wonder about the strong response countries have on libya ... is it just because their feelings on human rights violations? or is it again because of the Oil ...

anyways ... not much to do with the OP -