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shield4life
Veteran Member

14 years ago

#41

So it is a teams decision and not the NFL's.

Glad To Be A Packers Fan.

peteralan71
Registered

14 years ago

#42

I guess so.... that sucks. I mean it's good that they are now able to take the picture together, but it sucks that the guys were left out in the first place by a decision made by the team. Not good to hear things like this, makes a fan feel like the players are not treated well.

Green Bay: Home of the Green & Gold. And the hunter orange. And the camouflage.

musccy
Veteran Member

14 years ago

#43

A point many are missing is that rich twenty-somethings have a propencity to hit the bottle and cause trouble when an opportunity presents itself, even during super bowl week (see Max McGee, Eugene Robinson while w/ Falcons)

15 twenty-somethings with nothing better to do for 5 days in Dallas certainly doesn't seem like a good formula to me, and is why they aren't being brought down 'til Thursday...and I'm assuming precedent was the reason for the Tuesday pic.

buckeyepackfan
Veteran Member

14 years ago

#44

It's all Superbowl hype.

Everyone connected to The Packers are going to have to be real careful what they say, text, tweet or whatever, they are and will be under a microsope for the next 10 days.

Here's hoping this is the biggest "so called controversey" that happens involving The Packers.

Can't wait for "The Vultures" to start picking at Big Ben, they will be ruethless, not gonna be a pretty sight.

I was addicted to The Hokey Pokey, but I turned myself around!

dfosterf
Veteran Member

14 years ago

#45

Pittsburgh Post gazette notes

A couple of Steelers players gave their opinion of this, AFTER it was learned that the Packers were including the IR players after all.

Some respect, please
A brouhaha developed in Green Bay this week when several players on injured reserve complained that the Packers were not taking them to the Super Bowl until Thursday and that they would not be included in the official team photo.

The Packers changed their plans. They will wait until their 15 players on injured reserve arrive in Dallas and will snap the photo Friday and include them.

That never has been a problem for the Steelers. Not only have they always included their players on injured reserve in the Super Bowl photo, those players are treated the same as all others. They fly on the team charter, which will leave Monday, and have the same accommodations. That is how it always has been.

"Of course," said offensive tackle Willie Colon, placed on injured reserve after his Achilles was ruptured in June. "That's how I think the other guys [in Green Bay] should be treated and not separated like that. A guy on IR, it's not his doing."

Offensive tackle Max Starks, placed on injured reserve Nov. 10 with a neck injury that required surgery, said what the Packers did "stinks."

"It's in the eyes of the organization. They've been doing this for a long time as well. If that's the way [the Packers] feel, that's the way they feel. I'm glad I'm in this organization and there's that respect.

"In this league every owner is different, and that's what makes some places more special than others, and that's why this is a special place because they include everybody. They realize everybody has put their hand in the pile at some point."

dhazer
Veteran Member

14 years ago

#46

I can only say ouch to what the Steeler players are saying. This may be just a small thing but it will make free agents think a little.

Just Imagine this for the next 6-9 years. What a ride it will be 🙂 (PS, Zero should charge for this)

wpr
Preferred Member

14 years ago

#47

Barnett made a good point that he felt like he was in the way and keeping active players from getting treatment, along with adding to the workload of the trainers.
That said I have to wonder how many of the injured players were in GB all year? If you pack up and head out (Some to get treatment, some to save the cost of renting an apt, some for other reasons.) you are really not a part of the team. It reminds me of the kids story book of the little red hen. No one wanted to help her do the work but everyone wanted to eat what she prepared. The IR players that scattered and left GB don't really deserve to be in the team photo because they were not there in GB with the team. They may not be playing but they could have still helped their replacement go thru his game day preparations. Showed him what his mistakes where. Anything that would have contributed to the team as a whole.

dfosterf
Veteran Member

14 years ago

#48

I can only say ouch to what the Steeler players are saying. This may be just a small thing but it will make free agents think a little.

"dhazer" wrote:

Like I said, I'm glad they resolved the pic thing, but I still think that those that perceived this as merely media hype are not looking at it from the perspective of the players. In the big scheme, it should just "blow over", but it would have been better if A) It never happened. 😎 The Pack PR guy recognized the potential for some trouble and shut his yap and said he'd look into it or something instead of that (patently) b.s. reason he gave, C) Fools not twittering disgruntlement about it in the first place, although if they are PO'd enough to do it, that must be weighed also, and D) For a team that plays in bumf#ck Wisconsin, (in other player's minds at least) - that works SO HARD to overcome some of the disadvantages of being in a small city, etc. by ensuring everything is TOP NOTCH with the organization, the initial decision was NOT SMART.

...And it wasn't that hard to get right in the first place. All they had to do is look at precedent. We have heard from the Saints players from last year--Did same as Steelers, and now the Steelers players. Everybody on our IR now also knows that they (other teams' players) were included in everything, including the flight down on the charter.

The whole thing was and is stupid, but so incredibly easily avoidable by doing right by the IR'd guys in the first place.

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

14 years ago

#49

I had heard earlier that Nick and JerMichael over reacted prior to the picture being confirmed, etc ... and now Mike McCarthy just confirmed it and that Aaron Rodgers and Charles Woodson brought it up during their meeting and Mike said he was fine with including them and taking the picture a different day and basically didn't care when it was taken. McCarthy also said if that's the biggest issue the team has, then their in for one helluva week.

I'll try to post the exact words after the transcript is posted, if someone else doesn't get to it before me.

I'm glad because I hope to God once Mike's words are posted, we never discuss this again, until after the Super Bowl at the very earliest. I'm getting a little fed up with the negative vibe on this forum as of late.

musccy
Veteran Member

14 years ago

#50

I'm glad because I hope to God once Mike's words are posted, we never discuss this again, until after the Super Bowl at the very earliest. I'm getting a little fed up with the negative vibe on this forum as of late.

"Zero2Cool" wrote:

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beast (5h) : 6 days

wpr (17-Apr) : 7 days

Zero2Cool (16-Apr) : sounds like Packers don't get good compensation, Jaire staying

dfosterf (16-Apr) : Nobody coming up with a keep, but at x amount

dfosterf (16-Apr) : Trade, cut or keep

dfosterf (16-Apr) : that from Jaire

dfosterf (16-Apr) : My guess is the Packers floated the concept of a reworked contract via his agent and agent got a f'

Zero2Cool (16-Apr) : Yes, and that is why I think Rob worded it how he did. Rather than say "agent"

dfosterf (16-Apr) : Same laws apply. Agent must present such an offer to Jaire. Cannot accept or reject without presenting it

Zero2Cool (16-Apr) : I'm thinking that is why Rob worded it how he did.

dfosterf (16-Apr) : The Packers can certainly still make the offer to the agent

dfosterf (16-Apr) : Laws of agency and definition of fiduciary responsibility

dfosterf (16-Apr) : Jaire is open to a reduced contract without Jaire's permission

dfosterf (16-Apr) : The agent would arguably violate the law if he were to tell the Packers

Zero2Cool (16-Apr) : That someone ... likely the agent.

Zero2Cool (16-Apr) : So, Jaire has not been offered nor rejected a pay reduction, but someone says he'd decline.

Zero2Cool (16-Apr) : Demovksy says t was direct communication with someone familiar with Jaire’s line of thinking at that moment.

Zero2Cool (16-Apr) : Demovsky just replied to me a bit ago. Jaire hasn't said it.

dfosterf (16-Apr) : Of course, that depends on the definition of "we"

dfosterf (16-Apr) : We have been told that they haven't because he wouldn't accept it. I submit we don't know that

dfosterf (16-Apr) : What is the downside in making a calculated reduced offer to Jaire?

Zero2Cool (15-Apr) : Packers are receiving interest in Jaire Alexander but a trade is not imminent

Zero2Cool (15-Apr) : Jalen Ramsey wants to be traded. He's never happy is he?

Zero2Cool (15-Apr) : two 1sts in 2022 and two 2nd's in 2023 and 2024

Zero2Cool (15-Apr) : Packers had fortunate last three drafts.

dfosterf (15-Apr) : I may have to move

dfosterf (15-Apr) : My wife just told the ancient Japanese sushi dude not enough rice under his fish

Zero2Cool (14-Apr) : I think a dozen is what I need

dfosterf (14-Apr) : Go fund me for this purpose just might work. A dozen nurses show up at 1265 to provide mental health assistance.

dfosterf (14-Apr) : Maybe send a crew of Angels to the Packers draft room on draft day.

Zero2Cool (14-Apr) : I am the Angel that gets visited.

dfosterf (14-Apr) : Visiting Angels has a pretty good reputation

Zero2Cool (14-Apr) : what

Martha Careful (14-Apr) : WINNING IT, not someone else losing it. The best victory though was re-uniting with his wife

Martha Careful (14-Apr) : The manner in which he won it was just amazing and wonderful. First blowing the lead then getting back, then blowing it. But ultimately

Zero2Cool (12-Apr) : I'm guessing since the thumb was broken, he wasn't feeling it.

dfosterf (10-Apr) : Looking for guidance. Not feeling the thumb.

Mucky Tundra (10-Apr) : If they knew about it or not

Mucky Tundra (10-Apr) : I don't recall that he did which is why I asked.

Zero2Cool (10-Apr) : Guessing they probably knew. Did he have cast or something on?

Mucky Tundra (10-Apr) : Did they know that at the time or was that something the realized afterwards?

Zero2Cool (9-Apr) : Van Ness played most of season with broken thumb

wpr (9-Apr) : yay

Zero2Cool (9-Apr) : Mark Murphy says Steelers likely to protect Packers game. Meaning, no Ireland

Zero2Cool (8-Apr) : Struggling to figure out what text editor options are needed and which are 'nice to have'

Mucky Tundra (8-Apr) : *CHOMP CHOMP CHOMP*

Zero2Cool (2-Apr) : WR who said he'd break Xavier Worthy 40 time...and ran slower than you

Mucky Tundra (2-Apr) : Who?

Zero2Cool (2-Apr) : Texas’ WR Isaiah Bond is scheduled to visit the Bills, Browns, Chiefs, Falcons, Packers and Titans starting next week.

Zero2Cool (2-Apr) : Spotting ball isn't changing, only measuring distance is, Which wasn't the issue.

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