State of the Union· Page 3

DakotaT
Select Member Topic Starter

14 years ago

Maybe they could cut spending instead of pandering to the special interests. It's unbelievable how government workers are expected to be able to retire with a pension and health care benefits under the age of 55.

"vegOmatic" wrote:

I don't follow your logic. If the government worker signed a contract to accept a position with a pension then the government is bound by that contract. That worker is entitled to his pension. Same goes for the health care. Government workers typically accept less money for the same level of professional position as a private sector worker. In exchange they typically receive better benifits.

DakotaT
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14 years ago

#22

Obama is far from an idiot. You may disagree with his beliefs, philosophies and you may not like him...... but he is definitely not an idiot.
I going to venture a guess here........you think that Michelle Bachmann is brilliant..[/color]

"vikesrule" wrote:

Anybody that would think Obama is an idiot is plain a simple: a dumbass himself. Anybody that thinks ex Governor Palin is a cerbral assassin is also a dumbass. All Palin and Bachmann are is MILF for rich boys in need of the little blue pill. They look like what their fat ass wives should.

Obama was fucked from day 1 of his presidency with all the sabotage of the GOP. I don't take either side because neither side represents my interest in Washington. But my moral dilemma in life would make me side with the party that would rather help the poor than spit in their eye, regardless of my upbringing and current position in life.

digsthepack
Registered

14 years ago

#23

So, you are saying our current welfare and educational institutions...both owned lock, stock and barrel by the Democrats....have done anything to lift people out of poverty? Really? Poverty and illigitimacy (the strongest indicator for the next generation of impoverishment) are worse since the expansion of the welfare state, and education has failed the poorest and most vulnerable for generations. Not defending the Reps here, but tell me how the Dems have done anything to improve peoples' position in this world?

State Motto: "Wisconsin, our serial murderers eat their kill!"

Formo
Veteran Member

14 years ago

#24

Hell no. I don't want to hear anything that comes out of that idiot's mouth.

"vikesrule" wrote:

That statement might merit the briefest moment of consideration were it not for the fact that emanated from a guy that just 1 1/2 years ago hung on every word uttered by Brett Favre.
Favre even had to have a Plexiglas bellybutton installed so that you could see where you were going.

Obama is far from an idiot. You may disagree with his beliefs, philosophies and you may not like him...... but he is definitely not an idiot.

I going to venture a guess here........you think that Michelle Bachmann is brilliant..

"Formo" wrote:

lol Speaking of killing off any prior credibility.. Psssst, VR, I can see your political underwear, and I know what color it is.

The fact that you can't tell the difference between me giving that good ol' boy Favre a chance and me polishing his knob exposes your A) poor comprehension skills, 😎 poor judgement, and/or C) prejudices.

To be fair, I would have said the same thing about Mr. McCain if he were President.

But, I digress. I'd say that I'll stop sucklin' Favre's teat if you stopped sucklin' those Donkey's teat.. But there's no sucklin' done on my end, despite what your cute little photoshopped pics show. =)

Oh, yeah, one more thing:

BLACK AND YELLOW!!!

Thanks to TheViking88 for the sig!!

Formo
Veteran Member

14 years ago

#25

"DakotaT" wrote:

"vikesrule" wrote:

lol Bait much?

Thanks to TheViking88 for the sig!!

Rockmolder
Honored Member

14 years ago

#26

"digsthepack" wrote:

You know what you'd have to do to get school for everyone? Raise taxes. Let the rich pay for the poor, if you want to look at it that way, and then subsidize school for students. Of course, you can attach all kinds of strings so that they'll actually finish it, but the fact remains that people who don't have kids will pay.

Now, I'd be all for it. How succesfull you'll be in your life shouldn't be decided by where you come from. Thing is, this stuff won't fly in an economy that's as down as this one is right now. We have some backwards, right wing political party leading the Netherlands now who actually wants to stop study financing all together and go with huge student loans.

Obama could push all he wants, but after that healthcare package, he just doesn't have the money to spend, the support from the republican senate or the ability to take another huge PR hit to put in an entirely new school system.

I reckon you'd be killing him for reckless spending if he did, anyway. Just like you're on his back now for not doing enough about it.

vikesrule
Registered

14 years ago

#27

"DakotaT" wrote:

Well said.

Ya know DT, there are times that I think that you are actually a Minnesotan that was kidnapped by the Lawrence Welk family as a child. ::wink:

vikesrule
Registered

14 years ago

#28

lol Speaking of killing off any prior credibility.. Psssst, VR, I can see your political underwear, and I know what color it is.
You have no idea the color of my "political underwear".....I went commando years ago.

The fact that you can't tell the difference between me giving that good ol' boy Favre a chance and me polishing his knob exposes your A) poor comprehension skills, 😎 poor judgement, and/or C) prejudices.
You forgot the correct answer...option D) Brilliance...That there is not difference, Formo(although a dedicated Vikings fan) will eternally be remembered as a ....sniff, sniff sniff, ...Favre crotch sniffer

To be fair, I would have said the same thing about Mr. McCain if he were President.
Sheeeet...come on...you're so conservative that you only fly on airplanes with two right wings.

But, I digress. I'd say that I'll stop sucklin' Favre's teat ...
So , you are inferring that are still "sucklin' Favre's teat" ?

Oh, yeah, one more thing:

BLACK AND YELLOW!!!
See my post in your "Black and Yellow" thread.

"Formo" wrote:

digsthepack
Registered

14 years ago

#29

Rock....in Minneapolis, we spend nearly $15,000 per student, with nearly half of freshman entering the system not graduating. It is not about money...other than the fact much of the money for education is eaten up by redundant layers of administration and waste. We spend 51% of our state budget on education!! It is not about the money......

We know that many of these kids come from homes that are broken, and where discipline and accountability are not taught. Given that, should these things not be the cornerstone of the educational system? Well, it is not. Get the future felons....who in many cases terrorize those who pursue education, and are labeled in some communities as "acting white"...out of the classroom where they disrupt education for all. I mean, to raise your hand and learn is to make yourself a target! Get the trouble makers out of the schools, and into a different teaching environment that also works to address their emotional/mental issues so they can learn.

My college was a teaching college, and many of my friends went into education in metro area. Most were out of education within ten years, for reasons so beyond money.

State Motto: "Wisconsin, our serial murderers eat their kill!"

DakotaT
Select Member Topic Starter

14 years ago

#30

[quote="DakotaT"]

Well said.

Ya know DT, there are times that I think that you are actually a Minnesotan that was kidnapped by the Lawrence Welk family as a child. ::wink:

"vikesrule" wrote:

No, I'm just a guy who found that his blackened heart was wrong. The poor man and welfare recipient isn't my enemy, they are my brothers who for some reason or other do not have it as well as I do.

Also, I do not differentiate the difference in welfare received by someone who is uneducated and down on their luck from those pussies that leave the comfort of their rich daddy's houses to the frat houses back to their daddy's office chair. To me this person is actually lower than the welfare case because he has proven nothing except how to receive his entitlements.

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