DakotaT
13 years ago


Which is the point a lot of people miss: they may take a larger portion from your income, but the return is a greater number of professional services (which could reasonably be argued as necessary) offered.

"all_about_da_packers" wrote:



Am I to assume you feel these "professional service" are adequate in the standards that Americans privately pay for. Because if you do, then we have a much larger debate on our hands. Relying on the government to "take care" of everything creates laziness in the people because they don't have the incentives to go out and work hard for those things they want.
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Wade
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13 years ago
+1 to Dakota for correctly applying the economic idea of opportunity cost.

Again. :)

p.s. The sister agrees with Wade and The Mom: the [strike]honey[/strike] nectar is marvelous
p.p.s. it's fantastic drizzled over Brillo di Prosecco cheese, too.
And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, that you may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God.
Romans 12:2 (NKJV)
vikesrule
13 years ago

... Relying on the government to "take care" of everything creates laziness in the people .....

"DakotaT" wrote:



As in states where the people receive more government money than they pay in? Not mentioning any by name....<cough North Dakota cough> ::wink:
DakotaT
13 years ago

... Relying on the government to "take care" of everything creates laziness in the people .....

"vikesrule" wrote:



As in states where the people receive more government money than they pay in? Not mentioning any by name....<cough North Dakota cough> ::wink:

"DakotaT" wrote:



Seems to be working out though - you checked our state's coffers lately?

Maybe they should move your beloved Vikings up to Fargo. We could build them the stadium that your Socialist regime couldn't even dream of.
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vikesrule
13 years ago

... Relying on the government to "take care" of everything creates laziness in the people .....

"DakotaT" wrote:



As in states where the people receive more government money than they pay in? Not mentioning any by name....<cough North Dakota cough> ::wink:

"vikesrule" wrote:



Seems to be working out though - you checked our state's coffers lately?

Maybe they should move your beloved Vikings up to Fargo. We could build them the stadium that your Socialist regime couldn't even dream of.

"DakotaT" wrote:



So you take pride in being "on the dole".... a welfare state so to speak.

You claim the fiscal greatness of North Dakota yet you hold your hands out like beggars......interesting, kind of like a millionaire asking for food stamps.
DakotaT
13 years ago
It's my fault our farmers are provided booquoo subsidies to feed the country. Christ I'm gonna have to start checking out the mailbox for this government money coming my way.

Our fiscal greatnes is coming from Rockin the Baaken. We have huge oil reserves they are just beginning to tap.

I don't give a rat's ass about millionaire farmers accepting subsidies. That's between them and God. Obviously it bothers you though.
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vikesrule
13 years ago
Ya, North Dakota is a great [strike]contributor[/strike].....

FEDERAL AID TO STATE AND LOCAL GOVERNMENTS PER CAPITA
North Dakota 8th
Minnesota 31st

AGRICULTURAL PRODUCTION BY STATE
Minnesota 5th
North Dakota 25th

OIL PRODUCTION BY STATE
# 1 Alaska:
# 2 Texas:
# 3 California:
# 4 Louisiana:
# 5 New Mexico:
# 6 Oklahoma:
# 7 Wyoming:
# 8 Kansas:
# 9 North Dakota:

The amount of oil that is "technically and fiscally" recoverable from the Baaken formation is not that great. It has been way over-hyped.
At least as of now, the oil resources recoverable of that area would a have a minimal impact on energy needs.

The only reason North Dakota is a state at all, is that back in the day when Canada and the US were deciding who should get stuck with that God-forsaken piece of crap land area, they played a 7 round game of Rock-Paper-Scissors....the US lost.




Oh, and good to spar with ya again Troy
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Wade
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13 years ago
Of course, as oil prices increase (as they will), a lot of that "technically and fiscally" unrecoverable stuff stops being technically and fiscally unrecoverable.

Demand for oil being what it is and will be, regardless of the efforts of the sillies (greens).
And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, that you may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God.
Romans 12:2 (NKJV)
vikesrule
13 years ago

Of course, as oil prices increase (as they will), a lot of that "technically and fiscally" unrecoverable stuff stops being technically and fiscally unrecoverable.

"Wade" wrote:



And we should listen to an erudite economist why?.... Isn't that akin to believing the weather forecaster? ::wink:
Zero2Cool
13 years ago
The Vikings are 'on the dole' when it comes to the NFL. They dip in more than most other teams. Let's talk about that.
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bboystyle (23-Dec) : Minny isnt going to lose out so 5th seed is out of the equation. We are playing for the 6th or 7th seed which makes no difference
Mucky Tundra (23-Dec) : beast, the ad revenue goes to the broadcast company but they gotta pay to air the game on their channel/network
beast (23-Dec) : If we win tonight the game is still relative in terms of 5th, 6th or 7th seed... win and it's 5th or 6th, lose and it's 6th or 7th
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Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I think the revenue share is moot, isn't it? That's the CBA an Salary Cap handling that.
bboystyle (23-Dec) : i mean game becomes irrelevant if we win tonight. Just a game where we are trying to play spoilers to Vikings chance at the #1 seed
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Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I would think it would hurt the home team because people would have to cancel last minute maybe? i dunno
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Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : Should be moot point, cuz Packers should win tonight.
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