mi_keys
14 years ago

I totally agree with you on Rodgers' statistical performance this year. It's almost identical to the output Brady had in the pre-Moss era. 28 TDs and just under 4,000 yards a season.

"get_louder_at_lambeau" wrote:



But that ignores his rushing production, which was 2nd in the league to Vick. He had another 350 yards and 4 TDs rushing.

"Nonstopdrivel" wrote:



He also missed a game and a half due to concussion and he was still only 78 yards away from being the first quarterback to ever throw for 4,000 yards in each of his first three seasons.
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yooperfan
14 years ago

If you don't think Rodgers is the best quarterback, and consider all variables like age and mileage on the body, for whom would you trade him for? I wouldn't trade Rodgers for any QB in the league.

I don't care who the media or homer thinks is the best quarterback. Aaron's our man right now and I'm damn happy about it.

"DakotaT" wrote:



I'm not even reading the rest of the posts on this thread (until later), that was perfectly stated.
Nonstopdrivel
14 years ago

He also missed a game and a half due to concussion and he was still only 78 yards away from being the first quarterback to ever throw for 4,000 yards in each of his first three seasons.

"mi_keys" wrote:



Even so, he still threw for the third-most yards of any NFL quarterback in his first three seasons as a starter, behind only Kurt Warner and Peyton Manning.
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mi_keys
14 years ago

He also missed a game and a half due to concussion and he was still only 78 yards away from being the first quarterback to ever throw for 4,000 yards in each of his first three seasons.

"Nonstopdrivel" wrote:



Even so, he still threw for the third-most yards of any NFL quarterback in his first three seasons as a starter, behind only Kurt Warner and Peyton Manning.

"mi_keys" wrote:



Yep, God are we spoiled.
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Packers_Finland
14 years ago

Who is the best QB in the league? I don't think it's Tom Brady. Last night showed yet again what a ridiculous amount of time Brady has in the pocket. He actually sits there on his heels, he's so relaxed back there. Put him behind the Packers' offensive line and his numbers would plummet. Before Randy Moss came to town, his numbers were serviceable but certainly never spectacular.

"Greg C." wrote:



When I think about it, the top 5 is extremely close. I'm not willing to put one over the other at this point.

Brady - 36 TDs and 4 INTs... I don't care what line you have, that's god damn impressive

Manning - Despite having a bad OL year after year, the guy produces at a near-MVP level

Rivers - If you watch Chargers games, the first thing you notice is this guy is really awesome

Brees - Had a bit of an off year, but not willing to set aside his previous efforts

Rodgers - On fire right now, but statistically didn't have a dominating regular season (the kind what you said Brady had before Moss). Has never had a "bad stretch", very impressive 3 starting seasons. Especially 2009.

Take your pick. I don't think there's a wrong choice, or a right choice.

"Packers_Finland" wrote:



I would put Roethlisberger in there too. That makes six. I would still put Brady at the top, but Brees and Manning had off years. It just might be that the three R's--Rodgers, Rivers, and Roethlisberger-- have moved into the top four, at least for now.

"Nonstopdrivel" wrote:



This is Roethlisberger's first very good season. I don't think he's up there with these guys, but he's definitely on the top of the next echelon.
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