Playoff push helps Rodgers make case as game's best QB· Page 2

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

14 years ago

Just trying to look at things objectively, and not through green and gold glasses. If it makes you feel any better I think Tramon is among the top 3 corners in the league.

"Packers_Finland" wrote:

Objective my ass.

I'll go along with you and say that I don't think the Packers have the best player at any position and I'm fine with that. I do think the Packers have the best 53, top to bottom.

Nonstopdrivel
Preferred Member Topic Starter

14 years ago

#12

What about the best 67? 😉

Packers_Finland
Registered

14 years ago

#13

Just trying to look at things objectively, and not through green and gold glasses. If it makes you feel any better I think Tramon is among the top 3 corners in the league.

"Zero2Cool" wrote:

Objective my ass.

I'll go along with you and say that I don't think the Packers have the best player at any position and I'm fine with that. I do think the Packers have the best 53, top to bottom.

"Packers_Finland" wrote:

No disagreement there.

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DakotaT
Select Member

14 years ago

#14

If you don't think Rodgers is the best quarterback, and consider all variables like age and mileage on the body, for whom would you trade him for? I wouldn't trade Rodgers for any QB in the league.

I don't care who the media or homer thinks is the best quarterback. Aaron's our man right now and I'm damn happy about it.

warhawk
Senior Member

14 years ago

#15

We have playmakers all over the field on both sides of the ball. I don't recall a team so deep with playmakers everywhere. It might be Rodgers, or Jennings, or Driver, or Jones, on offense or Tramon, Woodson, CM3, Collins, Raji, or, Jenkins on D.

We are flat loaded with playmakers and they are all out there on the same page right now.

That has to be very scary for anybody they play. There is nowhere to run or nowhere to hide. Game planning this team right now must be creating a lot of sleepless nights.

"The train is leaving the station."

Pack93z
Select Member

14 years ago

#16

"DakotaT" wrote:

That I will agree with... all things considered.. no one would I trade for.

"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"

get_louder_at_lambeau
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14 years ago

#17

I totally agree with you on Rodgers' statistical performance this year. It's almost identical to the output Brady had in the pre-Moss era. 28 TDs and just under 4,000 yards a season.

"Nonstopdrivel" wrote:

But that ignores his rushing production, which was 2nd in the league to Vick. He had another 350 yards and 4 TDs rushing.

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Greg C.
Registered

14 years ago

#18

Who is the best QB in the league? I don't think it's Tom Brady. Last night showed yet again what a ridiculous amount of time Brady has in the pocket. He actually sits there on his heels, he's so relaxed back there. Put him behind the Packers' offensive line and his numbers would plummet. Before Randy Moss came to town, his numbers were serviceable but certainly never spectacular.

"Packers_Finland" wrote:

When I think about it, the top 5 is extremely close. I'm not willing to put one over the other at this point.

Brady - 36 TDs and 4 INTs... I don't care what line you have, that's god damn impressive

Manning - Despite having a bad OL year after year, the guy produces at a near-MVP level

Rivers - If you watch Chargers games, the first thing you notice is this guy is really awesome

Brees - Had a bit of an off year, but not willing to set aside his previous efforts

Rodgers - On fire right now, but statistically didn't have a dominating regular season (the kind what you said Brady had before Moss). Has never had a "bad stretch", very impressive 3 starting seasons. Especially 2009.

Take your pick. I don't think there's a wrong choice, or a right choice.

"Nonstopdrivel" wrote:

I would put Roethlisberger in there too. That makes six. I would still put Brady at the top, but Brees and Manning had off years. It just might be that the three R's--Rodgers, Rivers, and Roethlisberger-- have moved into the top four, at least for now.

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GoPack1984
Member

14 years ago

#19

"Pack93z" wrote:

That I will agree with... all things considered.. no one would I trade for.

"DakotaT" wrote:

Word.

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Zero2Cool
Elite Member

14 years ago

#20

lol@me for posting this same exact article.

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