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14 years ago

Either Jackson lacks peripheal vision or he is lacking intelligence. Our offensive line hasn't change, so why can Grant rack up 1,200 yards and Starks get 130 last week but Brandon can't do anything?

I say we draft a return specialist that can compete with Brandon for the third down back job, or else just cut him. Kudos to Brandon's blocking ability, he does excel at that.

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I don't know about you but I would not want most of the return specialists that I have seen trying to keep a DE or CM3 off of ARod and his blind side. they are not big enough.
They are return specialists because they are quick not because they are big or strong. (Relative to other NFL players that is.) A lot of these guys step out of bounds before they take a big hit.
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DakotaT
14 years ago
And don't forget about Dimitri Nance. That guy has some pop to him. I do want to see us get a full time return man. I cringe every time I see Tramon field a punt, and I don't like Shields back there either. Will Blackmon, you let us down.
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Greg C.
14 years ago

And don't forget about Dimitri Nance. That guy has some pop to him. I do want to see us get a full time return man. I cringe every time I see Tramon field a punt, and I don't like Shields back there either. Will Blackmon, you let us down.

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Just to be clear: It was Will's knee that let us down. He was a good return man and a passable backup CB.
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dfosterf
14 years ago

Starks has had two good games in three opportunities. As a rookie. Jackson has had two or three good games in 17 opportunities, or maybe something like 12 or 13 if you consider that the Packers were very pass-oriented at times this season. And this is Jackson's fourth season. Not a lot of upside there.

Starks is already a better runner than Jackson, and because he is so young, he has way more potential and is therefore way more valuable than Jackson. I don't think there will be much of a bidding war for Jackson during free agency. However, it sounds like he may not be comfortable with having been passed up twice now by players who started their careers at a much lower point than he did, so maybe it will be best for him to go elsewhere. I'd love to keep him around as our third down back, with Grant and Starks as the top two RBs.

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+1

Jackson.

He jitterbugs too much, imo. His production (or lack of it, dependent upon how you want to look at it) is in the context of defenses that are scheming against the pass, not the run. Not only does he not legitimize our running game to an acceptable degree (On OUR team, with OUR line--another discussion) whatever production he HAS had is somewhat suspect in that defensive coordinators are not exactly game-planning to stop him. We are way too "one dimensional" with him in there when viewed from the opponent's perspective. They (defenses) SHOULD be "paying" for not scheming against our run game. Sadly, with him in there, they do not have to pay far too often.

I understand he has value, the question is -for me- is it worth the cost in non productive runs way too often in critical situations, coupled with unfavorable downs and distances as a result of "giving him the rock" to try and keep defenses "honest".

He has had 4 years to scare a defense. Starks has had 3 games. Who do you think scares a defense more right now?

I don't know what will happen with Starks, Grant and Jackson, but I do know my answer right now with the information in front of me.

Grant would scare them, imo. Starks does scare them, imo . Jackson does not, imo.

The Starks factor could change this Saturday, but at least it's there right now, and that in and of itself is an improvement over where we were a week ago.

Eagles had to pay. Atlanta is paying too, even before the game begins.

I feel bad for Jackson, because I'm sure he heard those comments of praise from his teammates regarding Starks, which were probably viewed by Brandon as a vote of no confidence in him...

This is the NFL, and he did not step up...sorry, but that's the way it goes.
bozz_2006
14 years ago
Yep, this is a big boy league. If you don't like getting your feelings hurt, then produce on the field.
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DakotaT
14 years ago
I'm not going to cry if we unload Jackson. I'm all for improving any position, even if it is at the expense of a long time warrior like Clifton or Driver. They have lots of Benjamins to console their feelings with.

NON and I just have to deal with being called insensitive bastards by some of you, which is OK.

Good point on the blocking issue Greg, but I was thinking more along the lines of a guy like Reggie Bush.
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peteralan71
14 years ago
DakotaT -- It's the same as with warriors like Al Harris. There comes a time when the connection must be severed. That time is approaching. We all knew this day going to happen. Maybe we don't lose Cliffy and Diver next year, or even the year after that, but they should know by now that it's a business and the Packers will continue to search for the best players and put them at the top. It isn't insensitive. It's business.
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DakotaT
14 years ago

DakotaT -- It's the same as with warriors like Al Harris. There comes a time when the connection must be severed. That time is approaching. We all knew this day going to happen. Maybe we don't lose Cliffy and Diver next year, or even the year after that, but they should know by now that it's a business and the Packers will continue to search for the best players and put them at the top. It isn't insensitive. It's business.

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Tell that to the Favrebillies.
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peteralan71
14 years ago

DakotaT -- It's the same as with warriors like Al Harris. There comes a time when the connection must be severed. That time is approaching. We all knew this day going to happen. Maybe we don't lose Cliffy and Diver next year, or even the year after that, but they should know by now that it's a business and the Packers will continue to search for the best players and put them at the top. It isn't insensitive. It's business.

"DakotaT" wrote:



Tell that to the Favrebillies.

"peteralan71" wrote:



I'll tell it to them while giving them another message.... :birdman:

:)
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Packers_Finland
14 years ago
Keep Grant, Starks and B-Jack. Don't draft a running back at all. Keep Nance on the roster so that if one goes down before the season, the replacement is alreadyi in the house.
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