Zero2Cool
14 years ago
Offensive Line coach, James Campen
Specials Teams coach, Shawn Slocum


Someone's mentioned and I disagree
Wide Recievers coach, Jimmy Robinson
Defensive Coordinator, Dom Capers

When you ask what our strongest/deepest position, most will say WR. Jimmy is not the problem for our WR in my opinion.

Packers are 2nd in points scored against. Dom Capers is doing just fine, albeit could definitely improve against top tier QB's.

Before someone wants to give all the credit to Ted Thompson, hold on. Ted's great at finding talent, but if you don't have coaches that can exploit that talent in a positive manner, the talent is useless.


I would like Campen and Slocum gone along with any reminiscence of the zone blocking shit, err scheme. I think we improve a lot with those subtractions.
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Nonstopdrivel
14 years ago
As much as Dom Capers frustrates me against top-tier quarterbacks, his defense has been stout against the run and stellar in goal-line situations. So while I might not mind having him hog-tied and whipped with chains in the public square for playing soft against elite quarterbacks, I can't in good conscience advocate for his firing.

I would like to see Jimmy Robinson go, though. As zombieslayer has pointed out a few times, our receivers just seem to lack passion and the willingness to go for the difficult catch this year. And the drops continue to mount. Yes, these seem to be problems leaguewide, but I don't like seeing them on a team with a stellar quarterback. Our wide receivers should be thrilled to have the privilege to play with such premium talent. They're not likely to find better if they get cut by the Packers.
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Pack93z
14 years ago
The only changes I would make are Slocum and Campen with Fonteno in tow as well.

Campen and Fonteno haven't developed many linemen in there tenure.. with plenty to work with in that time.

You can say all you want about Robinson, but look at the development of the receivers under his watch.. even Swain has developed into a nice #5.. he can't catch the ball for the players, but they all run clean solid routes, block decently in space and handle a complex offense with rotating positions with ease.

And lack of heart? Really.. I guess I don't agree with that comment.. they do the little things in the games that win games. Jones drops one.. comes back and guts out a first down.. Jordy fights for extra yards, fumbles.. yet comes back late in the game and goes nuts out for the goal line. Drivers going down to catch a laser over the middle late in the game.. those plays win games and speak of heart and determination.

Slocum.. special teams seem to be a mess on a weekly basis.. coverage errors, gaffs in returns.. punter issues almost yearly.. changing Crosby motion and creating one of this worst years of his career, college or pros.. I would like to see a legitimate coach with experience there.. not a guy cutting his teeth.
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Zero2Cool
14 years ago
Lack of heart would to me be WR's not willing to block. I don't see that with our WR's. Also, if they were giving up routes all of the time or throwing up alligator arms. I'm not seeing that.


All of our special teams and offensive personnel coaches, gone and the damn scheme.



I'd really like to see more responsibility put on the players than the coaches when the player fails to catch the ball, make the tackle, etc ...
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tonyagnese
14 years ago
Agree that Slocum really needs to go....though yesterday for the first time in awhile we looked relatively decent in return coverage.
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earthquake
14 years ago
I think that its a reasonable thing to say that *every* defensive coordinator could stand to improve against top tier QBs. There is a reason they are top tier QBs after all.
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go.pack.go.
14 years ago
Okay once I read Dom Capers' name, I just skipped straight to this post.

Who in God's name said we should fire Dom Capers? That would be the WORST possible thing for this team. Possibly more devastating than firing McCarthy (I said possibly).
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Zero2Cool
14 years ago

I think that its a reasonable thing to say that *every* defensive coordinator could stand to improve against top tier QBs. There is a reason they are top tier QBs after all.

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Nonsense! A GOOD, hell FAIR DC would be able to mitigate the impact a top tier QB has on his teams offense! Just ask Rourkie!
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Nonstopdrivel
14 years ago
Stop being so practical, earthquake. It's not fair. 😉
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macbob
14 years ago
Our special teams gives me a heart attack every time they take the field--I'm expecting some horrible, embarrassing play to occur. Though the one I'd like to see go first is Bush--too many penalties and poor plays. Some haven't been his fault, but if the ball is going to bounce off of someone and the other team recover, chances are it'll have been Bush it bounces off of.

On the OL side, while I wouldn't miss Campen, what I'd rather see get fired is the ZBS.

In my mind, firing Capers is a lot like the calls to fire McCarthy--anyone calling for their jobs should get used to disappointment. Yeah, they both do things that irritate the hell out of me, and I sure wish they'd cut it out, but firing them? Seriously?
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Martha Careful (12-Feb) : I would love to have them both, esp. Crosby, but either might be too expensive.
Zero2Cool (12-Feb) : Keisean Nixon is trying to get Maxx Crosby and Davante Adams lol
Mucky Tundra (11-Feb) : Yeah where did it go?
packerfanoutwest (11-Feb) : or did you resctrict access to that topic?
packerfanoutwest (11-Feb) : why did you remove the Playoff topic?
Zero2Cool (10-Feb) : Tua’s old DC won a Super Bowl Year 1 with Tua’s former backup
Mucky Tundra (10-Feb) : *winning MVP
Mucky Tundra (10-Feb) : Funny observation I've heard: Carson Wentz was on the sideline for both Eagles Super Bowl wins w/guys supposed to be his back up winning
Zero2Cool (10-Feb) : NFL thought it would get more attention week preceding Super Bowl.
Zero2Cool (10-Feb) : Yes, the Pro Bowl. It was played Sunday before Super Bowl from 2010-2022
packerfanoutwest (10-Feb) : pro bowl
Zero2Cool (10-Feb) : From 2010 to 2022, it was played on the Sunday before the Super Bowl
Zero2Cool (10-Feb) : They moved it to the BYE week before Super Bowl several years ago.
packerfanoutwest (10-Feb) : it was always after the SB.....
beast (10-Feb) : Though I stop following pro bowl years ago
beast (10-Feb) : I thought the pro game was before the Super Bowl?
packerfanoutwest (10-Feb) : ok now for the Pro Bowl Game in Hawaii
TheKanataThrilla (10-Feb) : If I was Philly I would try to end it instead of punting it
Mucky Tundra (10-Feb) : VICTORY! We have (moral) victory!
TheKanataThrilla (10-Feb) : Hey they mentioned that we 3-peted
Mucky Tundra (10-Feb) : seems to me the 49ers should have traded Aiyuk when they had the chance
Mucky Tundra (10-Feb) : if the Eagles get it down to the 1, do they Tush Push or give it to Barkley?
TheKanataThrilla (10-Feb) : 49ers have a money problem if they want to sign their QB
Mucky Tundra (10-Feb) : Wait for real? Didn't he just get an extension two years ago?
Zero2Cool (10-Feb) : 49ers gonna trade Deebo. Interesting
TheKanataThrilla (10-Feb) : Replays always never seem to show the holdings
TheKanataThrilla (10-Feb) : Great throw by Hurts
Mucky Tundra (10-Feb) : Where Carter falls prey to bad off the field influences (to be clear, not saying he'd clip someone though)
Mucky Tundra (10-Feb) : Had Carter not gone to Philly were they already had a lot of old college friends, he ends up in a similar spot to Aaron Hernandez
Mucky Tundra (10-Feb) : I think some of his coaches told scouts to stay away
Mucky Tundra (10-Feb) : the street racing incident+conditioning and motivation problems
beast (10-Feb) : Then Carter was street racing, where the other car crashed and people died... and other teams were scared to pick Carter for some reason
beast (10-Feb) : I think the Saints traded up, giving their next year 1st to the Eagles, and then they sucked and Eagles got the 10th overall pick
packerfanoutwest (10-Feb) : wtf Barkley?
TheKanataThrilla (10-Feb) : Getting Carter and Nolan Smith in the first round in 2023 was pretty darn good
Mucky Tundra (10-Feb) : for some reason i'm thinking of a draft where the Eagles where in the mid 20s and a top player fell all the way to them
TheKanataThrilla (10-Feb) : I think so. I would need to look it up. Think it may have been Carolina's pick.
Mucky Tundra (10-Feb) : i'm not sure who i'm thinking of now
Mucky Tundra (10-Feb) : oh fuck me i messed that up
Zero2Cool (10-Feb) : Jordan Davis was 13th overall
Zero2Cool (10-Feb) : Carter was 9th overall
Zero2Cool (10-Feb) : Eagles had 15th and 10th selections, moved to 13 and 9 to get Davis and Carter back to back
Zero2Cool (10-Feb) : Eagles traded up for Carter, didn't they?
Mucky Tundra (10-Feb) : Obviously he was a huge risk but getting a top 5 talent on the dline in the mid 20s is fortuitous
Mucky Tundra (10-Feb) : Jalen Carter falling into their lap certainly helps
TheKanataThrilla (10-Feb) : And we could only wish to have this type of D
TheKanataThrilla (10-Feb) : It's not like Philly has had low draft picks, but has managed to get themselves a top notch pass rush. We spend so much draft capital of D
packerfanoutwest (10-Feb) : another crap halftime show
TheKanataThrilla (10-Feb) : I think it is over, but then I think of Atlanta and want Philly to go in with the same intensity in the second half
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