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macbob
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14 years ago
Wall Street Journal had an article today looking back at QB performance in below freezing weather since 2006. They looked at QBs still in the hunt for the playoffs.

Turns out Rodgers is one of the best, and Eli Manning one of the worst (has never thrown a TD in sub-freezing temperatures).

With a high of 25 predicted for Sun, that's good news for the upcoming game in GB, I'm just hoping they haven't jinxed us...

http://topics.wsj.com/article/SB20001424052748703886904576031611792638004.html 

The Eagles took a big step last week toward securing home-field advantage for at least one playoff game. Their problem is that quarterback Michael Vick has played very poorly in subfreezing weather.

Mr. Vick has four combined regular-season and playoff starts in the type of cold he could find next month at home. His passer rating in those cold games is 51.4, or 36% worse than his rating in all other games. Two of the games were in Philadelphia, both losses.

Since 2006, the overall league passer rating in freezing weather (76.7) is 7.6% worse than in other games. But Ben Roethlisberger and Aaron Rodgers are even more dangerous when playing in extreme cold, sporting 97.2 and 101.5 ratings, respectively. Mr. Rodgers's counterpart in Green Bay this week, the Giants' Eli Manning, has struggled in the cold except for his respectable 72 rating at Green Bay in the '08 NFC Championship. Even including that frigid game, Mr. Manning has never thrown a TD pass in freezing weather.

Meanwhile, in Kansas City on Sunday, Matt Cassel will try to prove his league-leading 105 rating in extreme cold (three starts) is no fluke.

Baby, It's Cold Outside
Here's how some quarterbacks that are still alive for the playoffs have done in passer rating in subfreezing starts, with their number of cold starts in parentheses.


QUARTERBACK	REGULAR-SEASON COLD RATING	PLAYOFF COLD RATING 
 
Matt Cassel 			105 (3) 			N/A 
Aaron Rodgers 			101.5 (8) 			N/A 
Ben Roethlisberger 		97.2 (11) 			83.6 (5) 
Tom Brady 			94.2 (14) 			78.9 (8) 
Drew Brees 			87.5 (4) 			83.2 (1) 
Peyton Manning 			80.2 (6) 			51.5 (2) 
Matt Ryan 			69.7 (1) 			N/A 
Matt Hasselbeck 		53.3 (7) 			73.2 (3) 
Mark Sanchez 			53.0 (4)			139.4 (1) 
Eli Manning 			43.3 (2) 			58.8 (2) 
Michael Vick  			25.8 (1) 			60.8 (3)  
Sources: Pro-Football Reference, Stats Inc.

WSJ.com wrote:

rabidgopher04
14 years ago
Not trying to start anything, but out of curiosity I wonder where Brett Favre would land on that list.
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mi_keys
14 years ago

Not trying to start anything, but out of curiosity I wonder where Brett Favre would land on that list.

"rabidgopher04" wrote:



Since 2006? Awful.

For his career, one of the best.

I'm not surprised to see Rodgers near the top of that list. I made the point in a thread about throwing in cold weather that Rodgers statistics were slightly better for cold weather games than his career average. Good thing to have too when you're a team playing in cold weather as often as we do.
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Wade
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14 years ago
I dont think the line should be drawn at freezing, but at +10 or +15. As long as there's no wind, 25-30 degrees isnt that noiceable.
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macbob
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14 years ago

Not trying to start anything, but out of curiosity I wonder where Brett Favre would land on that list.

"rabidgopher04" wrote:



Not that I really cared, but since you asked I went back and added up Favre's numbers during sub-32 degree temperatures for 2006-2010. During the regular season, he had a 74.1 rating--middle of the Pack, with the majority of the games (6 out of 😎 occuring as leader of the Pack :icon_smile: during 2006-2007.

Playoff average was from the 2007 season, where we beat SEA and lost to NYG. Favre's rating there was better (99.0).


2006	GB @ NYJ	L10-38		24-47 214	1 TD	2 INT	53.0 
2007	DET @ GB	W34-13		9-11 99		2 TD	0 INT	143.7
2007	GB @ CHI	L7-35		17-32 153	0 TD	2 INT	40.2
2007	OAK @ GB	W38-7		15-23 266	2 TD	2 INT	80.6
2008	NYJ @ SEA	L3-13		18-31 187	0 TD	2 INT	48.7
2009	MIN @ CHI	L30-36		26-40 321	2 TD	0 INT	106.4
Playoffs
2007	SEA @ GB	W42-20		18-23 173	3 TD	0 INT	137.6
2007	NYG @ GB	L20-23		19-35 236	2 TD	2 INT	70.7
Reg season
109-184		1240	7 TD	8 INT	74.1
Playoffs
37-58		409	5 TD	2 INT	99.0
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