Why are so many people up in arms about Tom Coughlin yelling at the punter after the game? Since when did the NFL turn into the Girl Scouts?

Coaches can't yell at players anymore? What in the name of Vince Lombardi is going on out there?

I take full responsibility, but I told him to punt it out of bounds and he screwed up.

Small summary of what he said.

I think people are more pissed about putting out such a hypocritical statement than about him yelling at a player who screwed up bigtime.

I don't care either way. He had to put it PC for the NFL police. That's what he did. And then he just came with reality.

I wish more "coaches" did that... get on this players when they blow and assignment or don't play up to their potential.. the players are paid well to hold up their end of the bargain.. hold them accountable.

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When I saw this thread, I was hoping IronMan wasn't going to go off on people who were out sick a lot. I missed about 7 days this year because of the flu and colds, and no, I wasn't playing hookie.

Phew!

You know who should have been yelled at? Our two DBs who dropped INTs right in their freaking hands. Either one of those INTs could have been game. You got the best QB in the freaking NFL who throws an INT right into your hands and you drop it. Urgh!

That was much worse than a Punter not punting it out of bounds. I guess the difference between good teams and mediocre teams is good teams make the plays they're supposed to make.

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The Woodson pick was more damning than the Shields drop.. Shields was on 3rd down.

I still say that Squib kick return before the half was worse than any of the dropped INT's.

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My biggest issue with MM is the fact that he seems like a robot on the sidelines. What little and rare emotion that comes from him seems like shitty emulation of real emotion. Someone makes a huge, boneheaded mistake (a few on that special teams play)? I want to see him either red as a tomato "talking" to him on the sidelines or yelling.

Rodgers gets hit helmet to helmet for the second time in a game without it being called? I want to see MM waving his arms around and yelling like someone just hit his car.

I've seen Tom Brady numerous times get right in the face of a player and scream at the top of his lungs.

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Yet, they all seem to love him. Plus, look at how they perform. NE seems to me like they're a bunch of losers from other teams that all somehow become stars in NE. If it takes screaming to win games, then I'm all for it.

The other thing that boggled my mind after watching the game was it seems like we have a minimum height requirement to be a Packer. NE has all these short dudes that run fast and get TDs. Side gripe though. Don't mean to go off topic.

Back on topic, yes, I agree with you IronMan. I want to win games, not be politically correct.

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Sorry, when I see Tom Brady screaming I always assume he's throwing a tantrum because he threw a pick and thought someone got interfered with, or someone brushed against him right after the ball was released.

To me, there is a difference between a coach getting into someones face and a team leader. The coach should be the one kicking him in the nuts and holding him accountable.. the teammate should be less demonstrative about it and do it in a different manner than zany on field antics unless he is okay with another player doing the same when he fails to hold his end of the bargain.

I highly doubt a Brady or Manning would take it if some lineman bitched them out on national TV.. or diva wide receiver calling him out.

Especially the QB which is becoming a "Pussified" version of a football player with the rules surrounding them. From the red "Don't touch me" jerseys in practice to now getting 15 yard penalties from even breathing on them. (Had to throw that in there.. you know the pussified thread)

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I don't think it has anything to do with a pussified or tough society. I just found it a little ridiculous that Coughlin's focus at the end of the game was running out onto the field and berating his punter. The game is over. You have plenty of time to do that shit in the coming week. It showed a lack of control more than anything else. There was no purpose to it other than venting like a little whiny bitch.

Of course, this is the first I've discussed it, so it's not like it bothered me a great deal.

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Vince Lombardi yelled at players on the sideline all the time. I guess he was a whiny bitch and lacked self control.

Exactly.

In the end, what matters is the W/L column, not being politically correct. Of course, as long as we're not cheating.

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Ah, the famous Lombardi argument. Well nevermind then. :lol:

I'd be surprised if Lombardi berated a player as the game ended, actually. Coughlin's little lecture had nothing to do with coaching.

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I blame the hippies turned yuppies.

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I think there is a certain chain of command in the whole topic, and probably why I get a little bent here and there with certain players holding others accountable.

IMO, the coach and his staff should be the ones handing out the Coughlin type reactions and discipline, not a fellow teammate trying to do it.

But I have little problem having a coach walk out onto the field and chew someones ass when he fails, especially at the NFL level. In this case, the punter had specific instructions and he failed to deliver upon them and little other than his execution was to blame.

You have to get through to them and hold them accountable, doing so on a big stage as a game should get through. If it doesn't, well then either they can perform it as written or they can't be counted on in the heat of the game.

Either way, they probably don't fit upon your team for long term success, in this case, this isn't the first mistake Dodge has made this season.

Personally, this is what I would like to see Campen or MM do to say a inconsistent yet talented player that loses focus at times.. Colledge comes to mind almost instantly.

And it has worked.. in 07' when Colledge was struggling, he got called out and benched.. he returned to play some of his best ball of his career. Last week Campen comes out with a strong statement that everyone on the line failed.. they returned with one of the most complete performances of the season.

Why do it.. because it works in this setting. Not all setting, but sports, especially on this level, you do it because it gets results.

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That's why he never won a NFL Championship ...

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coughlin's nothin more than a whiny lil bitch himself.

wah wah wah - you shoulda kicked it outta bounds - wah wah wah.

kinda loses its effect, eh? what a joke.

as for coughlin losing it against his punter at the end, yeah, that happens. doesn't bother me. I'd rather have someone who loses it periodically than a robot who's always under control.

on the other hand, i would want the after-reflection coughlin to go off more on the coverage players than the punters. watch that return...the eagle's coverage unit was worse than the packers's. and as we all know, that is saying something.

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I don't mind if a coach, OR a player, gets in the face of another player. IF and i do mean IF, the coach/player holds themselves just as acountable when THEY screw up.
I think players feel the same way. If you are gonna yell at me, ok, just as long as you take the blame when it's YOU that screws up.
Thats how i feel at least. When i had a boss that yelled at me, but also took the blame when they messed up, i respected them and didn't get mad.

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What's wrong with pussy again?

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