K_Buz
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14 years ago
Was anyone else screaming at the TV to go for it? I was. I thought that was horrible playcalling during that series and didn't see a FG as a good option there.

If we were up by 6, I would have took the FG with no problem but only being up 3 I didn't see any advantage not going for the TD to go up 10.
Since69
14 years ago
No. Absolutely not. We'd gotten stuffed on two or three straight attempts already. On the road against a tough opponent you always take the points.
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Nonstopdrivel
14 years ago
People always say you have to take the points, yet in almost every single game in which there's a "just take the points" situation, we lose. Why not try something else for a change? The Patriots had stacked the middle of the line, but both the left and right sides of the field were wide open. They waited till third down to roll Flynn out, at which point every man on the Patriots' defense knew exactly what was going to happen. Had they gone for it on 4th and failed, they would have pinned the Patriots inside the 1 yard line. I like the odds there. The Patriots hadn't shown the ability to mount a sustained drive all night.

Stop playing afraid. Step on the jugular.

Seriously, have the Packers won a single game this year in which they settled for taking the points?
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peteralan71
14 years ago
I would have liked to see us go for it and put the Patriots down. This was our one chance to beat the Patriots. If we were to play them again, you all know where it would be. Given the proverbial 1 in a million chance that we have to get to that point (I'm not going to jinx us by saying it 🙂 ), if we were to get there and play the Pats, they would be taking the game MUCH more seriously. They were looking at us like we were looking at the Lions last week. We were an oversight that almost cost them. Luckily for them, we had a backup QB at the helm that decided to throw the ball at the middle of the field with ~25 seconds in the game, and then didn't know what to do.

I don't put this on McCarthy, and to those that are saying FIRE McCarthy.... that just makes me speechless after last nights game. He had these guys loose all week, but they obviously came out of the gates ready to play. He had the amazing idea to do an onside kick to start the game off so that we could get the momentum.... he does not deserve to get fired. Come on guys/gals. Unreal.
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Stevetarded
14 years ago
Taking the FG was the right call. You make sure NE needs a TD on their next drive. The part that was stupid of McCarthy was running the same exact FB dive that had just failed AGAIN on 3rd down.
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Greg C.
14 years ago

Seriously, have the Packers won a single game this year in which they settled for taking the points?

"Nonstopdrivel" wrote:



I don't know how often this situation has come up this season. I usually like going for it in that situation, but this time, I was on the fence. Considering how hopeless the previous three plays looked, I didn't blame McCarthy for kicking the field goal.
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mi_keys
14 years ago

Seriously, have the Packers won a single game this year in which they settled for taking the points?

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I don't know how often this situation has come up this season. I usually like going for it in that situation, but this time, I was on the fence. Considering how hopeless the previous three plays looked, I didn't blame McCarthy for kicking the field goal.

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No, but had we settled for the points against the Redskins and taken the field goal we would have won that game. Instead we went for it on 4th down and didn't convert. Generally, I am with you in terms of going for it more often on 4th and 1, but we have possibly the worst offense in 1 yardage situations I've ever seen. In three of our losses this year we had first and goal from the one or two yard line and failed to score a touchdown. In those three cases we failed to convert on 4th, fumbled on 3rd down, and settled for a field goal. All because we are completely incapable of creating any push when it is everyone on the line and everyone knows this is going to be a scrum. We never create a fucking inch. It's pathetic. I'm not asking for them to consistently blow everyone out of the water in these situations but just once, once in the twenty or thirty times we've run on 3rd or 4th and 1 or from the 1 yard line could we create an inch of space for whoever is running the ball?
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warhawk
14 years ago
If Matt had not thrown the INT last week and we had gotten three there we could have won that game with a FG at the end. Instead, we had to have the TD and lost.

On the road in a tight game you take the points especially since we had let NE back in the game. Going away with 0 there would have been huge for NE and not to forget the only TD the D had really given up was on NE's first drive of the game. The other 14 to that point came from the INT and the KO return (essentially).

Based on how the D was playing it was the right call.
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Nonstopdrivel
14 years ago
I really wish I had a good database with software to search it (like STATS, LLC does) to see how often the conventional wisdom of "take the points" actually holds true. I'm pretty confident it's as fallacious as the idea that punting is better than going for it on 4th down, but I just don't have the tools to analyze the data.
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Stevetarded
14 years ago

I really wish I had a good database with software to search it (like STATS, LLC does) to see how often the conventional wisdom of "take the points" actually holds true. I'm pretty confident it's as fallacious as the idea that punting is better than going for it on 4th down, but I just don't have the tools to analyze the data.

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Well one thing we do know is that this team has converted only 38% of it's 4th downs this year
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