rabidgopher04
14 years ago

Honestly, I don't think we NEED a game changing RB. We've gotten this far without one....

"go.pack.go." wrote:



As a counter point, yes, we've gotten this far, but we need to get over the hump and get to the next level. It remains to be seen if we can do that. We've got a couple more games this season to prove it.

On the other hand Denver made it without a game changing RB for a number of years and was able to plug in any running back into their system and he would become an instant success. So maybe the fault is with our o-line and not the RB running behind it. Maybe it's a little of both.
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Tezzy
14 years ago
I think out of 10 games we would split with the Falcons. That's how good both teams are.
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musccy
14 years ago


On the other hand Denver made it without a game changing RB for a number of years and was able to plug in any running back into their system and he would become an instant success. So maybe the fault is with our o-line and not the RB running behind it. Maybe it's a little of both.

"rabidgopher04" wrote:



A little of both. Esp. in the first half, he was getting hit 3 yards deep.

But then in the 3rd quarter he had a STUPID play where he ran backwards and turned a 2nd and 1 into a 3rd and 7.
Tezzy
14 years ago


On the other hand Denver made it without a game changing RB for a number of years and was able to plug in any running back into their system and he would become an instant success. So maybe the fault is with our o-line and not the RB running behind it. Maybe it's a little of both.

"musccy" wrote:



A little of both. Esp. in the first half, he was getting hit 3 yards deep.

But then in the 3rd quarter he had a STUPID play where he ran backwards and turned a 2nd and 1 into a 3rd and 7.

"rabidgopher04" wrote:



Yeah, at worst that run should have resulted in a 3rd and 1. Was very disappointed in that.
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14 years ago
The thing I am most worried about with regard to the running game: if the coach has so little confidence in it that, given third and 1 or 4th and 1, he regularly runs 5 WR sets.
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Greg C.
14 years ago

The thing I am most worried about with regard to the running game: if the coach has so little confidence in it that, given third and 1 or 4th and 1, he regularly runs 5 WR sets.

"Wade" wrote:



Other teams do that quite often as well. It is not that unusual.
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porky88
14 years ago
Clearly, Thomm Brennan and Brian Billick have all the answers.

Why is it every time the Packers lose people have to jump ship on certain players. Scapegoat of the week for this loss is Brandon Jackson. He joins previous players like A.J. Hawk, James Jones, Daryn Colledge and even Aaron Rodgers.

Despite the lack of a running game, Green Bay played toe to toe with Atlanta in Atlanta. It was a well played game by both teams. The difference was Green Bay made a turnover inside the red zone and Atlanta didn't.
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14 years ago

The thing I am most worried about with regard to the running game: if the coach has so little confidence in it that, given third and 1 or 4th and 1, he regularly runs 5 WR sets.

"Greg C." wrote:



Other teams do that quite often as well. It is not that unusual.

"Wade" wrote:



And I'd be bothered if I were a fan of the other team as well.

I understand it as an occasional call. It smacks a bit of "finesse" philosophy, but I get that.

What I don't get is doing it over and over.

A top team should be able to run with success on 3rd or 4th and short. If it *regularly* goes empty backfield on clear "running downs", that says a lack of confidence in the running game to me.

If I were a DC and a team kept doing it on me, I'd start ignoring the run.
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porky88
14 years ago

The thing I am most worried about with regard to the running game: if the coach has so little confidence in it that, given third and 1 or 4th and 1, he regularly runs 5 WR sets.

"Wade" wrote:



Other teams do that quite often as well. It is not that unusual.

"Greg C." wrote:



And I'd be bothered if I were a fan of the other team as well.

I understand it as an occasional call. It smacks a bit of "finesse" philosophy, but I get that.

What I don't get is doing it over and over.

A top team should be able to run with success on 3rd or 4th and short. If it *regularly* goes empty backfield on clear "running downs", that says a lack of confidence in the running game to me.

If I were a DC and a team kept doing it on me, I'd start ignoring the run.

"Wade" wrote:



In the first half, Atlanta stopped those third and shorts over and over. Green Bay couldn't get the job done. For that reason, I am okay with throwing.

Football is all about circumstances or situations. I didn't see a way for the Packers to convert those third and shorts.

If anything, I think the Packers' offense plays it's best when they run on first down and then set themselves up for third and mediums or second and mediums. Green Bay should play for those more often in my opinion. You are who you are.
Greg C.
14 years ago

A top team should be able to run with success on 3rd or 4th and short. If it *regularly* goes empty backfield on clear "running downs", that says a lack of confidence in the running game to me.

"Wade" wrote:



Or it shows supreme confidence in the passing game. Glass half-empty, glass half-full.
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