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Pack93z
Select Member Topic Starter

14 years ago

#11

So did King address whether they have to interview other ethnic groups?

"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"

Cheesey
Preferred Member

14 years ago

#12

That's just it.......so they have to call some guy in for an interview......even though their is NO chance that they are gonna hire him.
What good does that do for the poor guy that gets called in, wastes his time trying to get a job he has NO chance of getting?
Where does that improve anything?
Again.....it's "political correctness" that accomplishes NOTHING.
Nothing but "feel good" B.S. that accomplishes NOTHING.
If a guy has no chance for a job, don't waste his time.
Discrimination of ANY kind is 100% wrong. But you are NOT gonna change anything with worthless "feel good" B.S.
If a guy deserves a job, he should get it. Skin color does NOT matter.

Nonstopdrivel
Preferred Member

14 years ago

#13

"political correctness"

"Cheesey" wrote:

I initially misread this statement as "political erectness." :magnifyglass:

Greg C.
Registered

14 years ago

#14

So did King address whether they have to interview other ethnic groups?

"pack93z" wrote:

He didn't mention anything about that, but the rule is very general, so I don't think that would even be a consideration.

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Greg C.
Registered

14 years ago

#15

What good does that do for the poor guy that gets called in, wastes his time trying to get a job he has NO chance of getting?

"Cheesey" wrote:

That's not a problem. If the guy thinks the interview will be a waste of his time, he doesn't have to do it. I think that does happen sometimes. But it seems that most of them will do the interview just to get their name out there.

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Zero2Cool
Elite Member

14 years ago

#16

Somebody asked Peter King about the Vikings' situation, and he said that he doesn't think they will have to interview another minority candidate, since the whole point of the rule is that at least one minority candidate gets an interview, and they already have one.

I wasn't sure if I liked the Rooney rule when the NFL implemented it, but I think it's turned out to be a good thing. There was an entrenched old boys network in NFL front offices, and the Rooney rule has helped break that up faster without precluding anyone from hiring the coach of their choice. All it has cost the teams is a little bit of time, and minority coaching candidates have stated that it's allowed them to at least get their name out there even when they haven't been seriously considered.

"Greg C." wrote:

Unless you're the minority candidate that is interviewed for appeasing the rule.

I just can't imagine a GM/Owner saying well you know Mr Black Guy is better than Mr White Guy, but let's hire Mr White Guy instead.

It's not done for positional players, why head coaches?

The Rooney Rule is patronizing and wrong and I see no good coming from it. Point blank, if a coach has talent, he'll get considered. This rule degrades minorities.

Pack93z
Select Member Topic Starter

14 years ago

#17

So did King address whether they have to interview other ethnic groups?

"Greg C." wrote:

He didn't mention anything about that, but the rule is very general, so I don't think that would even be a consideration.

"pack93z" wrote:

So the NFL is going to force the Cowboys to interview other candidates for the position even in the interim is the guy they want, but the Vikings, in the same position don't have to adhere to any mandate because of his skin color?

If that isn't discrimination, I don't know what it.

So do we need to create a rule so that a Caucasian is interviewed before any hire?

That is a lawsuit waiting to happen, in my opinion.

"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"

Cheesey
Preferred Member

14 years ago

#18

What good does that do for the poor guy that gets called in, wastes his time trying to get a job he has NO chance of getting?

"Greg C." wrote:

"Cheesey" wrote:

The problem is, HE doesn't KNOW that.
If a team owner has already picked who he wants, but HAS to, by some stupid rule, interview X-amounts of "minorities", he will just call ANYONE in to accomplish that.
If i were black, i'd want to know going in, that the reason i'm being interviewed is because i actually have earned the consideration that will give me that chance.
NOT just because some stupid quota......that's wastes my time.

jdlax
Member

14 years ago

#19

Not completely related, but I've always wondered how black people felt about the massive deal that was made about black head coaches being in the Super Bowl the year Indy beat the Bears.

The fuss that was made about it, you'd almost think that the perception was that black coaches were fundamentally incapable of such feats, and that it was a surprise of epic preportions that they'd somehow tricked the system in getting to the big dance.

I'd have found it a little insulting as a black person, I imagine.

djcubez
Senior Member

14 years ago

#20

So did King address whether they have to interview other ethnic groups?

"pack93z" wrote:

He didn't mention anything about that, but the rule is very general, so I don't think that would even be a consideration.

"Greg C." wrote:

"pack93z" wrote:

That's why I called it reverse racism. It's complete discrimination.

I also like whoever brought up other ethnic groups. Why does this rule only seem to apply to blacks?

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