djcubez
14 years ago
I'm pretty sure that the Jaguars are actually on top of the AFC South right. I'll look for clarification though just to make sure.

EDIT: Yup Jacksonville owns the head-to-head win.

EDIT 2: I just realized this was for last week. My bad lol.
mi_keys
14 years ago

Can anyone confirm that this is true? It sounds questionable to me.

Falcon -- the "lead" of the Bears is meaningless unless they sweep the Packers this year. If the Pack win that game by more than 3, they can actually go into the final week with 1 more loss than the Bears and STILL win the division. (That's how it works for those Bear fans patting themselves on the back for the win in week 3.) I fully agree that the game in Atlanta will show just how far the Pack has come this season, but certainly not a "must win" game by any calculation. However, if the Falcons lose, not only will the Pack show their greatness, but Atlanta will no longer be the top seed in the NFC. Much more at stake for the dirty birds.

"gbguy20" wrote:

"Nonstopdrivel" wrote:



seems legit to me. it basically says that if we end the season tied but we beat them by more than 3 points, then we take the division. unless that isn't the part you were questioning.



Actually, no that's not the case. Here are the tiebreaking procedures:

http://www.nfl.com/standings/tiebreakingprocedures 

I'm not really sure what they mean with tiebreakers 7 and 8. I assume they mean they take your rank within the conference for points scored (out of 16) and add that to your rank for points allowed to get a score and whoever is lower would advance (or repeat for all NFL teams if it's a tie). Regardless, tiebreakers 2 through 6 have nothing to do with points scored and there is no mention of aggregate score in the head to head matchup.

If Green Bay goes into the final game against Chicago a game behind we can win and nullify the first tiebreaker. Then it goes to division record, then common games, then conference, then strength of victory, and then strength of schedule before any tiebreaker relating to points.

There is no way it gets past strength of schedule as the only two different games Green Bay and Chicago have are Atlanta vs. Carolina and San Francisco vs. Seattle. I don't see San Fran being anywhere near as far behind Seattle in schedule as Carolina will be behind Atlanta come seasons end. We will almost certainly have that tiebreaker.

If we go down the line the division record tiebreaker could well be a tie. If we beat Detroit and Chicago we can't possibly lose this tiebreaker as Chicago would have one loss to us and would have to beat Minnesota and Detroit still to tie us. I think this one will likely end in a tie or us having the advantage if Minnesota edges out Chicago. I feel the Lions are just too unfortunate this year.

Then it goes to common games which will mean record in the NFC East and AFC East as the other common games are already tied at this point (division games). This could be a bitch to speculate although we can figure it using the non-common games. Chicago has played their two and went 1-1 (beat Carolina but lost to Seattle). If we go 1-1 (say lose to Atlanta and beat San Francisco, probably likely) then our common games would also be tied in this scenario.

Thus, we would head to conference schedule. Under this scenario we are assuming division and non-common games are both the same, leaving record in the NFC East as the remaining tiebreaker for conference record. Both Green Bay and Chicago have beaten Dallas and lost to the Redskins. Green Bay has beaten the Eagles and Chicago has lost to the Giants. So there is no way Chicago can win this, but they could tie if Green Bay loses to the Giants and Chicago beats the Eagles.

Finally, that takes us to strength of victory. Right now I think Green Bay has the edge with wins against the Eagles and Jets. The Bears biggest win (against us) would be nullified in this scenario as we would have beaten them also and have the same record. This one could shake out anyway though.

In short, there are a million different things that can happen with the tiebreakers if Green Bay heads into the final game behind one game and beats Chicago. We would more likely than not have a tiebreaker over them given our favorable position within division (assuming we beat them) and conference record as well as the strength of our schedule. I would rather we just win outright though.
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Zero2Cool (2h) : We'd have same Division and Conference records. Strength of schedule we edge them
Zero2Cool (2h) : I just checked. What tie breaker?
bboystyle (2h) : yes its possible but unlikely. If we do get the 5th, we face the NFCS winner
Zero2Cool (2h) : Ahh, ok.
bboystyle (2h) : yes due to tie breaker
Zero2Cool (2h) : I mean, unlikely, yes, but mathematically, 5th is possible by what I'm reading.
Zero2Cool (2h) : If Vikings lose out, Packers win out, Packers get 5th, right?
bboystyle (2h) : Minny isnt going to lose out so 5th seed is out of the equation. We are playing for the 6th or 7th seed which makes no difference
Mucky Tundra (3h) : beast, the ad revenue goes to the broadcast company but they gotta pay to air the game on their channel/network
beast (3h) : If we win tonight the game is still relative in terms of 5th, 6th or 7th seed... win and it's 5th or 6th, lose and it's 6th or 7th
beast (3h) : Mucky, I thought the ad revenue went to the broadcasting companies or the NFL, at least not directly
Zero2Cool (3h) : I think the revenue share is moot, isn't it? That's the CBA an Salary Cap handling that.
bboystyle (4h) : i mean game becomes irrelevant if we win tonight. Just a game where we are trying to play spoilers to Vikings chance at the #1 seed
Mucky Tundra (4h) : beast, I would guess ad revenue from more eyes watching tv
Zero2Cool (4h) : I would think it would hurt the home team because people would have to cancel last minute maybe? i dunno
beast (4h) : I agree that it's BS for fans planning on going to the game. But how does it bring in more money? I'm guessing indirectly?
packerfanoutwest (4h) : bs on flexing the game....they do it for the $$league$$, not the hometown fans
Zero2Cool (5h) : I see what you did there Mucky
Zero2Cool (5h) : dammit. 3:25pm
Zero2Cool (5h) : Packers Vikings flexed to 3:35pm
Mucky Tundra (5h) : Upon receiving the news about Luke Musgrave, I immediately fell to the ground
Mucky Tundra (5h) : Yeah baby!
Zero2Cool (6h) : LUKE MUSGRAVE PLAYING TONIGHT~!~~~~WOWHOAAOHAOAA yah
Zero2Cool (7h) : I wanna kill new QB's ... blitz the crap out of them.
beast (7h) : Barry seemed to get too conservative against new QBs, Hafley doesn't have that issue
Zero2Cool (8h) : However, we seem to struggle vs new QB's
Zero2Cool (8h) : Should be moot point, cuz Packers should win tonight.
packerfanoutwest (8h) : ok I stand corrected
Zero2Cool (8h) : Ok, yes, you are right. I see that now how they get 7th
Zero2Cool (8h) : 5th - Packers win out, Vikings lose out. Maybe?
beast (8h) : Saying no to the 6th lock.
beast (8h) : No, with the Commanders beating the Eagles, Packers could have a good chance of 6th or 7th unless the win out
Zero2Cool (8h) : I think if Packers win, they are locked 6th with chance for 5th.
beast (8h) : But it doesn't matter, as the Packers win surely win one of their remaining games
beast (8h) : This is not complex, just someone doesn't want to believe reality
beast (8h) : We already have told you... if Packers lose all their games (they won't, but if they did), and Buccaneers and Falcons win all theirs
Zero2Cool (8h) : I posted it in that Packers and 1 seed thread
Zero2Cool (8h) : I literally just said it.
packerfanoutwest (8h) : show us a scenario where Pack don't get in? bet you can't
Zero2Cool (8h) : Falcons, Buccaneers would need to win final two games.
Zero2Cool (8h) : Yes, if they win one of three, they are lock. If they lose out, they can be eliminated.
packerfanoutwest (8h) : as I just said,,gtheyh are in no matter what
Zero2Cool (9h) : Packers should get in. I just hope it's not 7th seed. Feels dirty.
packerfanoutwest (9h) : If packers lose out, no matter what, they are in
packerfanoutwest (9h) : both teams can not male the playoffs....falcon hold the tie breaker
packerfanoutwest (9h) : if bucs win out they win their division
beast (9h) : Fine, Buccaneers and Falcons can get ahead of us
packerfanoutwest (9h) : falcons are already ahead of us
beast (9h) : Packers will get in
beast (9h) : If Packers lose the rest of their games and Falcons win the rest of theirs, they could pass us... but not gonna happen
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