CaliforniaCheez
14 years ago
NFC

Division Leaders
1) Falcons (2) - Greater Winning % than Giants (.778 > .667) Heads up win over Saints
2) Giants (1) - Greater Conference Winning % than Bears (.833 > .625)
3) Bears (8) - Greater Winning % than Seahawks (.667 > .556) Heads up win over Packers
4) Seahawks (10) - Greater Winning % than Rams (.556 > .444)

Wild Cards
5) Saints (5) - Greater Conference Winning % (.714 > .667)
6) Packers (3) - Head to Head win over Eagles

The Rest
7) Eagles (6) - Better Strength of Victory than Buccaneers (.500 >.286)
8) Buccaneers (7) - Greater Winning % than Redskins (.667 > .444)
9) Redskins (9) - Greater Conference Winning % than Rams (.571 > .429)
10) Rams (4) - Greater Winning % than Vikings (.444 > .333)
11) vikings (11) - Greater Conference winning % than 49'ers (.500 > .167)
12) 49'ers (14) - Greater Division Winning % than Cardinals (.500 > .333)
13) Cardinals (12) - Greater Winning % than Lions (.333 > .222)
14) Lions (13) - Greater Conference Winning % than Cowboys (.286 > .167)
15) Cowboys (16) - Greater Winning % than Panthers (.222 > .111)
16) Panthers (15) -


AFC

Division Leaders
1) Jets (2) - Greater Winning % than Ravens (.778 > .667) Heads up win over Patriots
2) Ravens (1) - Greater Conference Winning % than Colts (.750 > .667) Heads up win over Steelers
3) Colts (3) - Greater Winning % than Raiders (.667 > .556)
4) Raiders (8) - Head to Head win over Chiefs

Wild Cards
5) Patriots (6) - Head to Head win over Steelers
6) Steelers (5) - Greater Winning % than Jaguars (.667 > .556)

The Rest
7) Jaguars (10) - Greater Wins in 4+ common games (IND,SD,DEN,BUF) than Chiefs
8) Chiefs (4) - Greater Conference Record than Dolphins (.500 > .429)
9) Dolphins (11) - Greater Conference Record than Titans (.429 > .333)
10) Titans (7) - Greater Winning % than Texans (.556 > .444)
11) Chargers (12) - Head to Head win over Texans
12) Texans (9) - Greater Winning % than Browns (.444 > .333)
13) Browns (13) - Greater Conference Winning % than Broncos (.333 > .286)
14) Broncos (15) - Greater Winning % than Bengals (.333 > .222)
15) Bengals (14) - Greater Winning % than Bills (.222 > .111)
16) Bills (16)


Six teams in the NFC are 6-3, Falcons are 7-2.

Bye weeks are over for everyone.

Giants (#2) at Eagles (#7) Packers with the tiebreaker over the Eagles need them to beat the Giants.

Cheer for Seattle (#4) to win in the Superdome over the Saints (#5).

Hope the Rams at home can beat the Falcons,

Cheer for the 49'ers to beat the Buccaneers out in San Francisco.

The playoff race is on.

After the vikings the Falcons game in Atlanta is a big game.
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RajiRoar
14 years ago
if we end up w a wildcard, we could very well end up feasting on some poor NFC West team šŸ™

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gbguy20
14 years ago
So rather than being worried about the vikings, I'm scared of the eagles. Wow.
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mi_keys
14 years ago

NFC

Division Leaders
1) Falcons (2) - Greater Winning % than Giants (.778 > .667) Heads up win over Saints
2) Giants (1) - Greater Conference Winning % than Bears (.833 > .625)
3) Bears (8) - Greater Winning % than Seahawks (.667 > .556) Heads up win over Packers
4) Seahawks (10) - Greater Winning % than Rams (.556 > .444)

Wild Cards
5) Saints (5) - Greater Conference Winning % (.714 > .667)
6) Packers (3) - Head to Head win over Eagles

The Rest
7) Eagles (6) - Better Strength of Victory than Buccaneers (.500 >.286)
8) Buccaneers (7) - Greater Winning % than Redskins (.667 > .444)
9) Redskins (9) - Greater Conference Winning % than Rams (.571 > .429)
10) Rams (4) - Greater Winning % than Vikings (.444 > .333)
11) vikings (11) - Greater Conference winning % than 49'ers (.500 > .167)
12) 49'ers (14) - Greater Division Winning % than Cardinals (.500 > .333)
13) Cardinals (12) - Greater Winning % than Lions (.333 > .222)
14) Lions (13) - Greater Conference Winning % than Cowboys (.286 > .167)
15) Cowboys (16) - Greater Winning % than Panthers (.222 > .111)
16) Panthers (15) -


AFC

Division Leaders
1) Jets (2) - Greater Winning % than Ravens (.778 > .667) Heads up win over Patriots
2) Ravens (1) - Greater Conference Winning % than Colts (.750 > .667) Heads up win over Steelers
3) Colts (3) - Greater Winning % than Raiders (.667 > .556)
4) Raiders (8) - Head to Head win over Chiefs

Wild Cards
5) Patriots (6) - Head to Head win over Steelers
6) Steelers (5) - Greater Winning % than Jaguars (.667 > .556)

The Rest
7) Jaguars (10) - Greater Wins in 4+ common games (IND,SD,DEN,BUF) than Chiefs
8) Chiefs (4) - Greater Conference Record than Dolphins (.500 > .429)
9) Dolphins (11) - Greater Conference Record than Titans (.429 > .333)
10) Titans (7) - Greater Winning % than Texans (.556 > .444)
11) Chargers (12) - Head to Head win over Texans
12) Texans (9) - Greater Winning % than Browns (.444 > .333)
13) Browns (13) - Greater Conference Winning % than Broncos (.333 > .286)
14) Broncos (15) - Greater Winning % than Bengals (.333 > .222)
15) Bengals (14) - Greater Winning % than Bills (.222 > .111)
16) Bills (16)


Six teams in the NFC are 6-3, Falcons are 7-2.

Bye weeks are over for everyone.

Giants (#2) at Eagles (#7) Packers with the tiebreaker over the Eagles need them to beat the Giants.

Cheer for Seattle (#4) to win in the Superdome over the Saints (#5).

Hope the Rams at home can beat the Falcons,

Cheer for the 49'ers to beat the Buccaneers out in San Francisco.

The playoff race is on.

After the vikings the Falcons game in Atlanta is a big game.

"CaliforniaCheez" wrote:



If I'm reading the tie breaker correctly on nfl.com I have a correction.

The Eagles are actually leading their division, which makes us seventh behind NYG and NO as both have better conference records. Within the division it goes head-to-head, division record, common games, and then conference. Philly are 2-1 in common games (Indy, Detroit, and Tennessee) whereas New York are 1-2.

Even if this were not the case I'm not sure in the multiple team tie we go ahead of Philly at the moment. The first step in tiebreaker for wildcard is to take the highest ranked team in each division involved in the tie breaker and disregard the rest. The first three team tiebreaker is NO, GB, and PHI, which goes to New Orleans as they have the best conference record.

Then the process is repeated now that New Orleans has been selected, which brings Tampa back into consideration. There is no head-to-head sweep, everyone has the same conference record, there are not 4 common games between the three teams (3 between Green Bay and Philly by my count), so it goes to strength of victory. Philly has a better strength of victory at .500 than we do at .389 and Tampa at .286. Philly would be sixth, we would be seventh, and Tampa eighth in such a case.


http://www.nfl.com/standings/tiebreakingprocedures 
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CaliforniaCheez
14 years ago
The Giants and Eagles have the same divisional record.
Then common games and they only have 3 Lions, Titans, and Colts(need 4 common games for that tiebreakers) When they do then the Eagles win and the Giants loss to the Colts will be significant.

Then Conference record.
Giants are 5-1 only losing to the Cowboys.
Eagles are 4-2 with loses to the Packers and Redskins.

The Giants lead the East.

Nice to see you being alert but common games does not matter until there are 4.

By the way the Packers beat the Eagles head to head which is the first tiebreaker.
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mi_keys
14 years ago

The Giants and Eagles have the same divisional record.
Then common games and they only have 3 Lions, Titans, and Colts(need 4 common games for that tiebreakers) When they do then the Eagles win and the Giants loss to the Colts will be significant.

Then Conference record.
Giants are 5-1 only losing to the Cowboys.
Eagles are 4-2 with loses to the Packers and Redskins.

The Giants lead the East.

Nice to see you being alert but common games does not matter until there are 4.

By the way the Packers beat the Eagles head to head which is the first tiebreaker.

"CaliforniaCheez" wrote:



The tiebreaker for common games for the division says nothing about 4 games. If you read the tiebreaker rules from nfl.com you will only see 4 games minimum as a prerequisite to consider common games as a tiebreaker for the wildcard. For the record, nfl.com lists the Eagles above the Giants in the NFC East standings.

I'm also aware of the fact we beat the Eagles. It is only the first tiebreaker in the event of a three or more team tie if one team has swept all teams involved. We have not beat New Orleans or Tampa so we do not have a sweep.

http://www.nfl.com/standings 
Born and bred a cheesehead
14 years ago
now how the shit are the Seahawks in this thing? you've got to be shitting me. lolz.

I agree with Twinkiegorilla.

bozz_2006 wrote:


zombieslayer
14 years ago
Just keep winning. Makes da Bears game very important. But then again, I don't see da Bears winning too many games from here on out.

Seahawks are in it because their division rivals are even worse.
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14 years ago
+1 to OP.
+1 to mi_keys.

I think keeping the details of GDP calculation straight is easier than applying the rules for NFL playoff tiebreakers.
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CaliforniaCheez
14 years ago

+1 to OP.
+1 to mi_keys.

I think keeping the details of GDP calculation straight is easier than applying the rules for NFL playoff tiebreakers.

"Wade" wrote:



I try to stay on top of it because it is confusing.
The NFL does not publish all their rules.
I believe the NFL is consistent with their definition of common games (a minimum of 4). Why would there be a different definition of common games within a division when division rivals have 14 common games over the course of a season?

By the way this little gem will last only a few days because the Giants play at the Eagles Head to Head this weekend.

The Packers are okay now. But you see how the loss to the Redskins really hurt them. Had Crosby made that field goal they would be #1 seed in the NFC with a better Conference record than the Falcons.

That is why I titled the thread high and tight.
Right now it is a close race.
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