Pack93z
14 years ago
Capers was bad as a head coach?

He took a franchise to the Championship game in their second year of existence.. the Packers happened to end his quest that season for a ring.

In 4 years with his first expansion franchise he was 30-34.. impressive.

In his second stint as a HC, he took an expansion team that squandered his expansion picks and made them close to a .500 team in year three..

I can think of a ton more coaches that haven't done as well with established teams let alone expansion teams.
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zombieslayer
14 years ago

Capers was bad as a head coach?

He took a franchise to the Championship game in their second year of existence.. the Packers happened to end his quest that season for a ring.

In 4 years with his first expansion franchise he was 30-34.. impressive.

In his second stint as a HC, he took an expansion team that squandered his expansion picks and made them close to a .500 team in year three..

I can think of a ton more coaches that haven't done as well with established teams let alone expansion teams.

"pack93z" wrote:



No, I said Lovie Smith is bad as a HC. I'm saying Capers is a better DC than HC, but didn't say he was a bad HC. He was pretty decent, however, he's an elite DC.
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Pack93z
14 years ago
I agree he is an elite DC.. I apparently framed my point poorly. He hasn't been given a fair shake to prove that he can be an elite HC as well.

Nothing more.
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zombieslayer
14 years ago

I agree he is an elite DC.. I apparently framed my point poorly. He hasn't been given a fair shake to prove that he can be an elite HC as well.

Nothing more.

"pack93z" wrote:



He's had 8 years. Has a record of 48-80. You forget the Houston Texans for 4 years.

Of course with a footnote - both teams were expansion teams. That's a bigger challenge than taking over an established team. Still, an elite HC would have taken at least one of these teams to a winning record. He's 30-34 with Carolina and 18-46 with Houston.
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Pack93z
14 years ago
No I mentioned the Texans.. you know the team that utilized the expansion draft to pick up Tony Boselli with the 1st pick whom was done from the start.

Even then.. he took the Texans to a 7-9 record in year three.

Granted both teams slid in year 4.
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Rockmolder
14 years ago

I agree he is an elite DC.. I apparently framed my point poorly. He hasn't been given a fair shake to prove that he can be an elite HC as well.

Nothing more.

"zombieslayer" wrote:



He's had 8 years. Has a record of 48-80. You forget the Houston Texans for 4 years.

Of course with a footnote - both teams were expansion teams. That's a bigger challenge than taking over an established team. Still, an elite HC would have taken at least one of these teams to a winning record. He's 30-34 with Carolina and 18-46 with Houston.

"pack93z" wrote:



That Texans franchise screwed up in so many departments during its first few years, especially personel-wise, that I'll give him the benefit of the doubt there.

Would be great if Nolan got released again next year, but Sparano isn't as big of an idiot as McDaniels is, I'm afraid, so we'll just have to hope that Capers sticks around.

As to an earlier post... Trgovac would be great to just step into the role, normally, but he's been a 4-3 guy his entire career.

Now, I've seen coaches make the transition more often and he should've learned a thing or two from Capers by now, but you never know what results he'll post.

I do love that his defenses usually know how to get after the passer, being a defensive line coach and all.
zombieslayer
14 years ago

No I mentioned the Texans.. you know the team that utilized the expansion draft to pick up Tony Boselli with the 1st pick whom was done from the start.

Even then.. he took the Texans to a 7-9 record in year three.

Granted both teams slid in year 4.

"pack93z" wrote:



Duh. That 2nd stint went right over my head.

Unfortunately, you judge coaches by record. He had a mediocre record with the Panthers after 4 years and a lousy record with the Texans after 4 years.

I do agree it's not fair as they were both expansion teams but still, that's how a HC is judged mainly.

(I'm really trying hard to discourage other teams from grabbing him, help me out here. 😉 )


That Texans franchise screwed up in so many departments during its first few years, especially personel-wise, that I'll give him the benefit of the doubt there.

Would be great if Nolan got released again next year, but Sparano isn't as big of an idiot as McDaniels is, I'm afraid, so we'll just have to hope that Capers sticks around.

As to an earlier post... Trgovac would be great to just step into the role, normally, but he's been a 4-3 guy his entire career.

Now, I've seen coaches make the transition more often and he should've learned a thing or two from Capers by now, but you never know what results he'll post.

I do love that his defenses usually know how to get after the passer, being a defensive line coach and all.

"Rockmolder" wrote:



Yes, Capers Ds usually are pretty good for fantasy points. 🙂
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14 years ago
I expect him to get a few interviews after the season is over. he deserves it. if he is hired elsewhere I will regret his leaving.
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porky88
14 years ago
He's been a head coach twice. Perhaps it's something he doesn't want to do any longer. I really believe he could become the NFC's version of Dick Lebeau if he wants. Lebeau tried coaching in Cincinnati and it didn't work. He's now considered one of the best coordinators in the history of the game. I think Capers can get there. I hope he does. If the Packers are smart, they'll up his pay to keep him around along time.
nerdmann
14 years ago
I agree the biggest factor against this happening is his age. But if he wants to take one more crack at it, I wouldn't hold it against him. Just PLEASE let it not be in Minnesota.
LOVE him as a DC. If MM ever pulls his head out of his ass on offense, Dom could get a ring here.
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