zombieslayer
14 years ago
To be fair to Nick B, the NFC is full of elite MLBs. Hard to get a Pro Bowl here.

Kind of along the lines of why Driver won't make the Hall. Had he been playing in the 70s, fo shizzle. It's just too many great WRs today.

I wouldn't mind seeing Nick back. He plays with a lot of fire.
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Johnson
14 years ago

AJ Hawk has 60 total tackles in 7 games. I don't have time to compare his stats to the rest of the NFC MLBs, but that's pretty freaking impressive.

He already has 2 INTs. Sure, one of them was just being in the right place at the right time but he caught it, and that's what counts.

Hawk is finally starting to live up to his #5 draft position. Kudos. I hope he keeps this pace. It's been a heck of a year for him so far.

Also, thank you Go.Pack.Go. Yes, those 2 straight tackles for a loss against the Dolphins were nice. So it's not like he doesn't get in the backfield. He does.

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I've been pretty critical of the Pack, and I have no problem with Hawk. Yes, he's no Neon Light, but he's solid as fuck, and we'd miss him if he were gone. He's one of those guys who does his job well and doesn't get credit because he isn't doing pic-6's and all that. But because he does his job other guys like Woodson shine.

Yes. he was an overall high pick, and no he hasn't kept up with 1 thru 4 from that year, but god damn it he's consistent. That's worth its weight in gold to a coach, to know what he's dealing with.

Keep him around.
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Tezzy
14 years ago
5th pick in that draft class I don't think was all that horrible for what the Packers have gotten in return for AJ Hawk during his service. If we stick to just linebackers in that draft, we can compare Hawk to Ernie Sims, Chad Greenway, Bobby Carpenter, Manny Lawson who were the rest taken in the first round. I still feel good about that pick for what I believe Hawk brings to the defense. Sure there are other big names in that draft at different positions like Ngata, Santonio Holmes, DeAngelo Williams, Nick Mangold, Joseph Addai from that year, but are

And for saying he hasn't kept up with 1 through 4 from that draft class?
Mario Williams, has he been the next Reggie White?
Reggie Bush, has he really been what anyone expected out of college? His expectation levels were finally lowered by critics and now he is a star.
Vince Young, that's still a work in progress and that team has had greater success without him
D'Brickashaw Ferguson, he has played as well as everyone expected.
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