go.pack.go.
14 years ago

Yes I watch a lot of football. I watch 5-10 full games a week. It's not just Hawk, but Hawk does it more often than any LB I've seen.

His strength is in close spaces near the line. Our DL needs to do a really good job for Hawk to shine.

"Packers_Finland" wrote:



I can't say I've really noticed him get dragged 5 yards down the field. You are definitely exaggerating, a lot.

Maybe 1 or 2 yards, but not 5.
Tezzy
14 years ago

Yes I watch a lot of football. I watch 5-10 full games a week. It's not just Hawk, but Hawk does it more often than any LB I've seen.

His strength is in close spaces near the line. Our DL needs to do a really good job for Hawk to shine.

"Packers_Finland" wrote:



Finland, I only questioned your watching football because you questioned me. I don't doubt you watch just as much as I do. And I will contend you over exaggerate about Hawk. Don't want to get into a pissing match about it, instead I'll try to put my money where my mouth is and try to indentify the same types of plays by other players around the league and see if there really is an imbalance. Give me the next couple weeks to digest some DVR tape and will get a spreadsheet together.

About your last comment, couldn't agree more.
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Packers_Finland
14 years ago

Yes I watch a lot of football. I watch 5-10 full games a week. It's not just Hawk, but Hawk does it more often than any LB I've seen.

His strength is in close spaces near the line. Our DL needs to do a really good job for Hawk to shine.

"go.pack.go." wrote:



I can't say I've really noticed him get dragged 5 yards down the field. You are definitely exaggerating, a lot.

Maybe 1 or 2 yards, but not 5.

"Packers_Finland" wrote:



I vividly remember one that goes exactly as I said it. Tight end, five yards, first down. It was against the Redskins or the Lions.
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Tezzy
14 years ago

Yes I watch a lot of football. I watch 5-10 full games a week. It's not just Hawk, but Hawk does it more often than any LB I've seen.

His strength is in close spaces near the line. Our DL needs to do a really good job for Hawk to shine.

"go.pack.go." wrote:



I can't say I've really noticed him get dragged 5 yards down the field. You are definitely exaggerating, a lot.

Maybe 1 or 2 yards, but not 5.

"Packers_Finland" wrote:



I think there was one that was darn near 5 yards this last week. But if I recall Hawk had attacked from the side and I don't think he had a good chance to do anything about it.
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Zero2Cool
14 years ago

I vividly remember one that goes exactly as I said it. Tight end, five yards, first down. It was against the Redskins or the Lions.

"Packers_Finland" wrote:



The list of defenders who have not been dragged is far shorter than the list of defenders who have.




I think putting Hawk on Peterson would be good, but as I say that, I don't know how effective it'll be. Once the Vikings figure it out, they will use it to dominate us.
Packers_Finland
14 years ago

I vividly remember one that goes exactly as I said it. Tight end, five yards, first down. It was against the Redskins or the Lions.

"Zero2Cool" wrote:



The list of defenders who have not been dragged is far shorter than the list of defenders who have not.

"Packers_Finland" wrote:



The fact I don't understand this sentence is far more baffling than the fact that I don't.

But I get what you meant. And I agree. But as I stated previously, from what I have observed it seems to happen to Hawk more often than to other LBs.
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Zero2Cool
14 years ago
Barnett should be grouped in there too if you're talking about LB'ers who get dragged. I've noticed several LB'ers who played against us that had the same problems too.

I think it's expected. Not often do you get a chance run the gap the same as the RB. Sometimes you have to hold your ground and attack when someone invades it, thus, getting dragged a yard or two. And if it's someone with strong legs, more yards.
go.pack.go.
14 years ago

Yes I watch a lot of football. I watch 5-10 full games a week. It's not just Hawk, but Hawk does it more often than any LB I've seen.

His strength is in close spaces near the line. Our DL needs to do a really good job for Hawk to shine.

"Packers_Finland" wrote:



I can't say I've really noticed him get dragged 5 yards down the field. You are definitely exaggerating, a lot.

Maybe 1 or 2 yards, but not 5.

"go.pack.go." wrote:



I vividly remember one that goes exactly as I said it. Tight end, five yards, first down. It was against the Redskins or the Lions.

"Packers_Finland" wrote:



Ok so because of one play I guess now Hawk is a bad LBer. Good logic there.
Zero2Cool
14 years ago

Ok so because of one play I guess now Hawk is a bad LBer. Good logic there.

"go.pack.go." wrote:



Go easy on him, he thinks Tomlinson is the best RB, ever. 😛
Packers_Finland
14 years ago

Yes I watch a lot of football. I watch 5-10 full games a week. It's not just Hawk, but Hawk does it more often than any LB I've seen.

His strength is in close spaces near the line. Our DL needs to do a really good job for Hawk to shine.

"go.pack.go." wrote:



I can't say I've really noticed him get dragged 5 yards down the field. You are definitely exaggerating, a lot.

Maybe 1 or 2 yards, but not 5.

"Packers_Finland" wrote:



I vividly remember one that goes exactly as I said it. Tight end, five yards, first down. It was against the Redskins or the Lions.

"go.pack.go." wrote:



Ok so because of one play I guess now Hawk is a bad LBer. Good logic there.

"Packers_Finland" wrote:



Did you even bother to read my posts? I said "too many times" implying to the fact that there are more than one.

That, combined with the fact that he hesitates and doesn't trust his instincts, and is suspect in coverage combine to the fact that he's not a great player. I never called him a bad player. Get your head straight.
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