Formo
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14 years ago
ESPN's Schlereth sounds off on the NFL 

I gotta say, this is a great video. I REALLY appreciate the passion that Schlereth has on this 'issue'.

Like many said, to 'fix' this issue, we have to go down to the bare grass roots of the game and teach and more importantly PROMOTE proper tackling. This mean no more glorifying the use of one's helmet to get a reaction or a 'huge Madden hit'.
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coltonja
14 years ago

ESPN's Schlereth sounds off on the NFL 

I gotta say, this is a great video. I REALLY appreciate the passion that Schlereth has on this 'issue'.

Like many said, to 'fix' this issue, we have to go down to the bare grass roots of the game and teach and more importantly PROMOTE proper tackling. This mean no more glorifying the use of one's helmet to get a reaction or a 'huge Madden hit'.

"Formo" wrote:



Gosh dang it I was going to post this lol!!

Amazing video. Every football fan should watch this
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musccy
14 years ago
I'm with him 110%. I thought the Daunta Robinson fine was absolute bull. He led with his shoulder and separated DeShawn from the ball. THAT'S THE FRICKIN' POINT!!! Was it violent? No doubt, but legal and like Schlereth said, that's what you sign up for. If you don't want to take the risk, get another job

+10 to Stinky for his rant!
Packers_Finland
14 years ago
Great video. +1 Formo for posting it.
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Nonstopdrivel
14 years ago
I must admit I'm impressed with Schlereth's mother-in-law for noticing he never puts his left knee up on the stool. Not many people would notice something like that.
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Formo
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14 years ago
Rourke, I was impressed as well. lol
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PackFanWithTwins
14 years ago
I am still torn. Yes the players know what they are getting into, that doesn't mean it should just be let go. Yes the NFL is more to blame for the promotion of these hits, that still doesn't mean they should just left alone. 29 surgeries sucks, but there is no surgery to fix the damage of concussions.

If the NFL just decided this week they wanted to stop head shots and started fining and suspending players, that would be wrong, but they didn't, they have been after them for years. Only the players don't change, hell most of them laugh at the old fines because it is just a tax rightoff for them.

The NFL has never wanted the hits to stop, only head shots. They have asked players to hit lower and they don't. Of the three hits Harrisons was the one I have the most forgiveness for because of the amount the WR lowered himself. But that one also, had Harrison aimed even 6 inches lower to start, could have made a huge difference.

Had the players changed with the rules or even showed a sign of changing the suspensions would not be considered.
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djcubez
14 years ago

I am still torn. Yes the players know what they are getting into, that doesn't mean it should just be let go. Yes the NFL is more to blame for the promotion of these hits, that still doesn't mean they should just left alone. 29 surgeries sucks, but there is no surgery to fix the damage of concussions.

If the NFL just decided this week they wanted to stop head shots and started fining and suspending players, that would be wrong, but they didn't, they have been after them for years. Only the players don't change, hell most of them laugh at the old fines because it is just a tax rightoff for them.

The NFL has never wanted the hits to stop, only head shots. They have asked players to hit lower and they don't. Of the three hits Harrisons was the one I have the most forgiveness for because of the amount the WR lowered himself. But that one also, had Harrison aimed even 6 inches lower to start, could have made a huge difference.

Had the players changed with the rules or even showed a sign of changing the suspensions would not be considered.

"PackFanWithTwins" wrote:



If the NFL starts ejecting/fining/suspending players on a weekly basis I feel they've gone too far. However I can't comment on this rule much until I get a real feel for how it's going to effect the game.

My issue resides with intent. If a player leads with his helmet or obviously goes for a spear it shows intent. The problem is it's so hard to prove.

Football is fast paced. On defense you can't just not tackle a guy, it's your job to make sure a player is on the turf. If you go in for a proper tackle the ball carrier is obviously going to adjust to attempt to shed the tackle. With so much movement so quickly a defensive player has no control whether or not his helmet is going to make contact with the ball carrier. It's ridiculous to think otherwise.
PackFanWithTwins
14 years ago

I am still torn. Yes the players know what they are getting into, that doesn't mean it should just be let go. Yes the NFL is more to blame for the promotion of these hits, that still doesn't mean they should just left alone. 29 surgeries sucks, but there is no surgery to fix the damage of concussions.

If the NFL just decided this week they wanted to stop head shots and started fining and suspending players, that would be wrong, but they didn't, they have been after them for years. Only the players don't change, hell most of them laugh at the old fines because it is just a tax rightoff for them.

The NFL has never wanted the hits to stop, only head shots. They have asked players to hit lower and they don't. Of the three hits Harrisons was the one I have the most forgiveness for because of the amount the WR lowered himself. But that one also, had Harrison aimed even 6 inches lower to start, could have made a huge difference.

Had the players changed with the rules or even showed a sign of changing the suspensions would not be considered.

"djcubez" wrote:



If the NFL starts ejecting/fining/suspending players on a weekly basis I feel they've gone too far. However I can't comment on this rule much until I get a real feel for how it's going to effect the game.

My issue resides with intent. If a player leads with his helmet or obviously goes for a spear it shows intent. The problem is it's so hard to prove.

Football is fast paced. On defense you can't just not tackle a guy, it's your job to make sure a player is on the turf. If you go in for a proper tackle the ball carrier is obviously going to adjust to attempt to shed the tackle. With so much movement so quickly a defensive player has no control whether or not his helmet is going to make contact with the ball carrier. It's ridiculous to think otherwise.

"PackFanWithTwins" wrote:



They Aaron Rodgers not being told not to tackle. They Just don't tackle the head. Be more controlled. Don't throw yourself at the tackle. Don't think it has been posted here yet. The NFL video.

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Make the tackels lower is all the NFL has wanted, to reduce teh head shots to defenseless players. If the players won't change themselves, they need some incentive to do so and teh fines were not doing it.
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DakotaT
14 years ago
Formo, just so we are OK with still fining guys for crawling on on the turf and then swatting the QB's knees well after the ball was delivered.

Something tells me Schlereth just crossed a line he is going to regret. Don't get me wrong, I think he is right, but he just called the league that has been employing him in one way or another for a very long time - hypocrites. Somebody is going to be pissed.

I loved the part he brought up about not taking care of the retired veterans. Any veteran, of the NFL or any other professional league, should not have a medical financial worry for the rest of their lives.
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