Schlereth sounds off on the NFL· Page 2

Formo
Veteran Member Topic Starter

14 years ago

Formo, just so we are OK with still fining guys for crawling on on the turf and then swatting the QB's knees well after the ball was delivered.

"DakotaT" wrote:

Totally fair. Wasn't a helmet to helmet hit. Also still think it's ridiculous that the NFL has labeled tackles below the knees on a QB as 'illegal'.

Something tells me Schlereth just crossed a line he is going to regret. Don't get me wrong, I think he is right, but he just called the league that has been employing him in one way or another for a very long time - hypocrites. Somebody is going to be pissed.

I loved the part he brought up about not taking care of the retired veterans. Any veteran, of the NFL or any other professional league, should not have a medical financial worry for the rest of their lives.

"DakotaT" wrote:

Schlereth has been going at it with the NFL for a long time now. He's getting paid by ESPN, so I don't think the NFL can do anything about his yappings.

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Zero2Cool
Elite Member

14 years ago

#12

With the focus on helmet to helmet hitting I believe we'll see a lot more shattered knees with players trying to aim lower now.

The best result would be to see some form tackling. They should start putting the best form tackles on ESPN highlights. They'd struggle to display a top ten.

musccy
Veteran Member

14 years ago

#13

The nfl video is a joke. The differences between robinson's hit on jackson and ray lewis' hit on keller is negligible, if not indiscernible, yet to the NFL there is some clear distinction?!?

I understand the intent, but there was only 1 illegal hit this weekend, yet 3 unprecedented fines.

PackFanWithTwins
Veteran Member

14 years ago

#14

"musccy" wrote:

I think the bit difference is Lewis didn't go running in and throw a shoulder and make head contact. Lewis setup and made a hard tackle. All three hits that were fined made head contact either with helmet or shoulder.

The world needs ditch diggers too Danny!!!

musccy
Veteran Member

14 years ago

#15

Meriweather deserves every dime, I haven't heard anyone disagree with that yet.

I see what you're saying about the head contact on Harrison. Whether incidental or not (and the NFL has said they don't care if it's incidental) he twice made contact with a brown's player's head.

With Daunta, he didn't hit DeShawn's head. He didn't launch, he led with the shoulder, and only the side of his helmet made contact with DeShawn's pec/shoulder. If the NFL decides to fine/eject/suspend every player whose helmet happens to contact a player (wherever it may be, incidental or not), they will have just released a large snowball rolling down a huge hill!

PackFanWithTwins
Veteran Member

14 years ago

#16

I saw a great suggestion the other day. Hire a groupl of Ex coaches, players, officials and civilians to do the reviewing of the calls.

Hopefully this is enough to get players to change a little. Instead of throwing yourself at the tackle, set yourself and make a hard clean tackle. IN the Ray Lewis one, even if he did make contact with the head, I would still say that was clean. He didn't throw himself, and he had his arms out to wrap. I would fine/suspend head contact when I see a player lower his arms and torpedo even with the shoulder.

The world needs ditch diggers too Danny!!!

musccy
Veteran Member

14 years ago

#17

I think the diverse committee makes a lot of sense.

I also see what you're saying about going for the tackle, and I think that's a good point. However, i just watched the replay again of the Robinson play, and he sort of extended his left arm for a tackle while mainly leading with his right shoulder.

Had he tried to tackle Jackson, I think it would have lowered his center of gravity even more, and would have been bordering on a spear, which a Viking just got fined 20K for.

Aside from head hunting, this is a very grey area that will be the center of controversy for a long time. The line between a spear, a devastating play, leading with the shoulder, and attempting a tackle can all be frustratingly muddled.

Wade
Veteran Member

14 years ago

#18

Am I the only one who finds the "head vs. shoulder" distinction the wrong one?

To me, the question is "where are the arms?" Proper tackling form involves wrapping the arms around the guy with the ball, rigiht? Well, then look to see if the player is striving to tackle (in which case the arms are outside the tackler's body, moving forward toward the ball carrier) or just trying to whack the guy with a blunt instrument (in which case the arms tend to be down alongside the body or bent across the blunt instrument's chest.

Another thing, I'm betting if they got rid of the "illegal contact past 5 yards" rule, and allowed old fashioned bump/run coverage until the ball was in the air, you'd have less of these hits. It'd be less "let the guy get open as long as you can close quick enough from 10-15 yards away" "coverage".

And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, that you may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God.
Romans 12:2 (NKJV)

Formo
Veteran Member Topic Starter

14 years ago

#19

Yeah, good call Wade.

I still hate how they are hypocrites, though. They = NFL

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