Nonstopdrivel
14 years ago
I haven't looked at the numbers in depth recently, but to say the Packers weren't in third-and-long situations last year is absurd. Purely on an intuitive level, I'd guess they were in such situations more often last year than they are this year, which is one of the reasons why Rodgers' numbers on third down were so spectacular.

I'd like to do an analysis of this, but I'm not sure where I'd be able to find the information easy without having to slog through endless pages of play-by-play.
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digsthepack
14 years ago
Personally, I don't think it is the talent we have on the line....I think it hasa lot more to do with ZBS and coaching.
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PackFanWithTwins
14 years ago
What is wrong is McCarthy. He refuses to run Jackson when getting over 4 ypc or dump flair pass to him when he is getting 10 ypc recieving. McCarthy seems to want this offense to be arial at the expense of wins.

Defenses can pass rush like they have a 20 point lead in the 4th all game because McCarthy isn't going to run. They are constantly in Shotgun which is an advantage to the Dline over oLine with no snap count to go from. The secondary in LBers are able to play in the passing lanes because of the lack of trying to run.

Jackson needs to be used correctly. Much like Edgar Bennett was in 95. He could get us 900-1000 yards rushing, and also 500 or so recieving if McCarthy would run the WCO instead of trying to be the greatest show.
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porky88
14 years ago
While I don't like to see complaining or a dependence on the other team committing penalties, I do understand that QBs are being protected outside of Green Bay. If that hit occurred on Tom Brady, there is yellow on the field.

Personally, I think some of the penalties are ridiculous, but either call them or don't. Right now, it's picking and choosing.
Zero2Cool
14 years ago

While I don't like to see complaining or a dependence on the other team committing penalties, I do understand that QBs are being protected outside of Green Bay. If that hit occurred on Tom Brady, there is yellow on the field.

Personally, I think some of the penalties are ridiculous, but either call them or don't. Right now, it's picking and choosing.

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I think it's a fantasy football thing. Penalty yards aren't accounted for so keep the yellow in your pocket and hope he throws for those yards on the next play.

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Silentio
14 years ago
I don't know why this thread devolved into a debate about the run game (like every other thread...) but the issue here is with officials calling penalties. For whatever reason Rodgers seems to miss a lot of penalties other players get the flag for. Two weeks in a row now we've seen Rodgers get slammed with helmet to helmet contact, end up hurt and the refs say nothing.

Maybe it has something to do with the offensive line, and that Rodgers is seeing a lot more fat guys in his face than the rest of the league. Hell, maybe it does have something to do with the lack of run plays called, but the real issue here is player safety.

Football is a physical sport, and part of the reason we all watch it is to see players make contact, but I am not interested in watching a sport that devolves into violence. For TWO WEEKS now the league as failed to protect one of its star players from this violence. If they can't make a statement about helmet to helmet violence when Aaron Rodgers is getting smashed behind the line, imagine the shit they're missing with the poor bastards in the trenches are subjected to players behaving badly.

Yes, the fact that Rodgers has guys in his face is a Packers problem, but the lack of flags when those players fail to tackle well (part of their job description for which they are paid millions) is a officiating problem and a league problem.

I love football, but I'm getting sick of it.
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Porforis
14 years ago

I haven't looked at the numbers in depth recently, but to say the Packers weren't in third-and-long situations last year is absurd. Purely on an intuitive level, I'd guess they were in such situations more often last year than they are this year, which is one of the reasons why Rodgers' numbers on third down were so spectacular.

"Nonstopdrivel" wrote:



The more third downs you convert, the more third downs you're going to have.
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14 years ago
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Cheesey
14 years ago
Yes, it seems AR is getting all kinds of illegal hits on him. Wht arn't they being called? I don't know. Maybe he's not a big enough "star" for the NFL to give a damn.
It also doesn't seem that our "great" WR group is getting open. That, and 2 seconds for AR to find anyone before he gets creamed, and you have the recipe for another loss.
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zombieslayer
14 years ago
Silentio - There is favoritism in any sport. Had Tom Brady or Peyton Manning taken those hits, you can bet they'd be called. Rodgers isn't an NFL favorite yet.

It's just like that annoying palming crap that Michael Jordan did. Had I been a ref and someone was doing that at a HS game, I would have called it. I hated watching Jordan dribble the ball.
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