Seriously, I would like to know. Word is that McCarthy calls West Coast Offense, I just don't see it anymore. At least not the nice WCO that Holmgren brought from San Fran.

We once use to run slants to set up the deep hitters. Today, the deep ones just happen when ever. They never set up the CB. SCREENS? When was the last time GB actually had a screen work? Sure Grant is out and that hurts. But what do we have left? Jackson, and his strong suit is recieving and running in space. Do we throw to that RB that averages 7 yards per catch? No, we look for Finley and Deep routes.

Please Mike, go back and look at what made the offense you claim to run tick and start doing that again.

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It's like we're running something in between a Denver/NE offense and the WCO.

And we've removed some signature plays from both.

Like you said, we're not exactly going heavy on the screens. Not that it's something I mind too much. I love screens, but our o-linemen have been absolutely horrible at them for quite a while.

We seem to be throwing less and less slants, as well. I figure it's a combination of playcalling, progressions and Rodgers, but I do know that I'd like to see them completed some more.

Then we're in the shotgun all the time. We have some pretty interesting routes and packages, but we usually don't stack any receivers or run some developping routes like sluggo's.

To be honest, I don't know what to call this.

I don't know what to call it but I like it. Right now, we're #5 in points. Last year, #3. The first year with Aaron we were #5. The last year with Favre we were #4.

That's four consecutive years in the top 5 in points.

What is the problem again?

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Well if I had to say a problem with whatever McCarthy is running, is that it cannot compensate for the run game, or lack there of right now. Screens, RB in the flats, screens were a vital staple of the WCO. I remember when they use to say those plays were as good as a run because they accomplished the same thing. They pull the LBers and S closer to the line setting up the deep routes.

Now we are in a position that we don't have that stellar RB, so the offense needs to do something to compensate. Now we don't have that practiced screen blocking that once was so effective, we barely throw to a RB that averages 7ypc receiving. We use to run slants to get favorable down and distance, today we use it to pick up 1sts.

Jackson is not a great back, but if utilized correctly, he could open up the offense. Under the current circumstance, McCarthy needs to get back to the old basics of the system.

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This offense is definitely not pure WCO. McCarthy definitely needs to run more screen plays, without a strong running game.

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You can't run screens with a RB who can't run faster than a 4.5.

You sure as hell can't run screens with an offensive line as crappy as ours.

That's why we don't run screens.

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Why does a running back need to be so fast to be effective on screen passes? The main thing he needs to do is follow his blockers.

They ran a couple of good screens in the preseason, and I thought we would be seeing about one per game during the regular season. They haven't run one yet.

McCarthy has always run his own version of the West Coast Offense. Mike Sherman had his own twist on it as well. So do most coaches. The WCO has been used in the league for about 30 years now. Things evolve. I wouldn't mind seeing some more screens and slants, though, especially in short yardage situations.

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Edgar Bennett was great at screens and He was far from fast. I think it is actually the opposite, to much speed and the back outruns his blocking. I think it is much more a lack of practice and attempting them. We really haven't run good or many screens since McCarthy.

We could really use them or even just flair passes to the RB to make up for our running game.

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Give the run game time, folks. We've played 4 games. It will develop, as long as Kuhn and Jackson stay healthy.

We're ironing things out. Kuhn played like a beast Sunday and Jackson is improving. We got that rookie coming back in a few weeks too.

I see a lot of panicking. I think it's due not to fans themselves, but the stupid media kept pumping up the Packers as having the Lombardi Trophy pretty much wrapped up. No, we still have to work for it.

If anyone should be panicking right now, it's the Vikings fans and da Bears fans. Cutler's IQ is going to drop 10 points per game from all the blows to the head he's taking. The Vikings' O looks bad, really bad. They're the ones who should be panicking, not us.

And like I said in another thread, it's not our O that I'm worried about. Our O is ranked #5 in points currently. We've been in the top 5 in points for the past 4 years. We will be in the top 5 in points by the end of this year.

Again, what's the problem? Please use facts instead of emotion.

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Were a Multiple Offense we run so many formations it is not funny.

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