olds70supreme
14 years ago
I thought Hawk played well today as well. It usually seems to me that he is not that fast on the field, but on one play in the second half he was sent on a stunt blitz around the outside of the left tackle and absolutely flew around him on his way to the QB. Unfortunately Hill saw him coming and dumped it to the RB in the flat, but I was amazed at how fast Hawk moved on the play. Other than that it seemed like Hawk and Woodson were the Packers defense yesterday.
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Pack93z
14 years ago
I grill Hawk repeatedly and often.. but that first half was some of the best ball he has played in a while here.

He like just about every backer on the roster bit on the screen and dump offs.. but that is more a product of over aggressiveness than anything.. and IMO, I would rather have those dogs hunting than sitting back and tentative.

Lions dialed up those screens effectively.. that double screen to Pettigrew was impressive.. a double same side screen.. you just don't see that... we sealed up Best so they dumped inside to Pett..
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evad04
14 years ago

I grill Hawk repeatedly and often.. but that first half was some of the best ball he has played in a while here.

He like just about every backer on the roster bit on the screen and dump offs.. but that is more a product of over aggressiveness than anything.. and IMO, I would rather have those dogs hunting than sitting back and tentative.

Lions dialed up those screens effectively.. that double screen to Pettigrew was impressive.. a double same side screen.. you just don't see that... we sealed up Best so they dumped inside to Pett..

"pack93z" wrote:


On that double screen Hawk was blitzing and it seemed like the moment he passed Pettigrew he knew what the play was. He ended up making the tackle 10 yards downfield, but he had to turn around first and play chase.

Detroit did a very good job against the blitz. Green Bay seemed intent on taking away the deeper routes. Unfortunately this led to gain after gain over the middle.
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zombieslayer
14 years ago

People are always hating on Hawk. He's not flashy but he does what he needs to do and gets himself in position to make solid plays. Today was a testament to that. On a day when the rest of the D looked limp two vets stepped up and had very solid performances respectively. Is it too bad he isn't a Clay Matthews, yeah it is, but he put up a game today comparable to last year's D player of the year. Hawk is the definition of solid and something every team needs.

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Buckeye - Thanks for the summary. Yeah, I know I don't think he deserved it either but it still happened. Bummer circumstance. A-, I agree. I'd give him the same grade. He put up a fine performance.

Silentio - I don't. I've been a Hawk defender. I put him a hair under Solid. Nick Barnett is Solid. CM3 is a Pro Bowler. Those 3 alone and you have a good LB corps.
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Pack93z
14 years ago
I don't know if there is a poster here that bangs on Hawk more than I... I just get worked up on what he could be.. because I have seen it. Early in his career here and in college.. and at times flashes like yesterday.

He, Hawk is a solid Linebacker.. plays a little too reactionary at times.. but solid player.

Where the rub for me comes is that he has all the physical tools to be much more..
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DakotaT
14 years ago

I don't know if there is a poster here that bangs on Hawk more than I... I just get worked up on what he could be.. because I have seen it. Early in his career here and in college.. and at times flashes like yesterday.

He, Hawk is a solid Linebacker.. plays a little too reactionary at times.. but solid player.

Where the rub for me comes is that he has all the physical tools to be much more..

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It's time for a buzz cut. Just look how good Mia and I look.

Either that or I have to call him a gelding before ever game like this one.

Maybe he will be worth $10M next year. :icon_smile:
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Chutzpah515
14 years ago
Hawk did have a nice game. His biggest problem is over perusing. He seems to react to plays a little too early and is caught out of position sometimes. Overall Hawk had a great performance this week.
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