porky88
14 years ago
McCarthy is going to turn into Marty Schottenheimer when he has a lead. That's just the way he is. I don't like it, but that philosophy has won a lot of games for Marty Schottenheimer and it's won a lot of games for McCarthy too. For the record, I like Marty Schottenheimer, but his teams lacked a killer instinct. The Pack couldn't put the Lions away today and nearly loss because of this.

For all the posts pointing fingers at McCarthy, at least he corrects his mistakes. The penalties were fixed today. The special teams coverage unit was passable.

However, Dom Capers has not figured out how to stop stacked WR sets. Until he does, Green Bay will have a weakness that will put them in shootouts more often than not.

Although, maybe this is just a fluke chink in the zone blitz armor. Maybe it's the players. I tend to think it's a combination of everything. But this formation is what torched Green Bay against Arizona and Pittsburgh last season.

While that was happening, the offense was scoring what 80 points combined in those games. Just sayin'
Chutzpah515
14 years ago

McCarthy is going to turn into Marty Schottenheimer when he has a lead. That's just the way he is. I don't like it, but that philosophy has won a lot of games for Marty Schottenheimer and it's won a lot of games for McCarthy too. For the record, I like Marty Schottenheimer, but his teams lacked a killer instinct. The Pack couldn't put the Lions away today and nearly loss because of this.

For all the posts pointing fingers at McCarthy, at least he corrects his mistakes. The penalties were fixed today. The special teams coverage unit was passable.

However, Dom Capers has not figured out how to stop stacked WR sets. Until he does, Green Bay will have a weakness that will put them in shootouts more often than not.

Although, maybe this is just a fluke chink in the zone blitz armor. Maybe it's the players. I tend to think it's a combination of everything. But this formation is what torched Green Bay against Arizona and Pittsburgh last season.

While that was happening, the offense was scoring what 80 points combined in those games. Just sayin'

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I totally agree with all of this, except the last part. The offense still needs to generate more continuity between drives and needs more general refinement, if they want to be a serious superbowl team. Injuries have started to take their toll on the defense, but they still hold their own.
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14 years ago
Your comparison to Schottenheimer is a good one and one that kinda validates my thinking. Schottenheimer is a good coach who has had talented teams, but hasn't won more than one game in the post season.
tonyagnese
14 years ago
The lack of a killer instinct does seem to be a slight problem as does the teams inability to play a complete football game.
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Chutzpah515
14 years ago
McCarthy is the NFC's Norv Turner. :horse:
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14 years ago
I think I'm part of the club that says if you employ a coach long enough, he'll get a trophy for you. Of course, he has to provide some results in the meantime. I would never condone keeping someone around for the sake of consistency.

In short, I think we have a good coach in McCarthy and I believe he's got the tools to get one for us.
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14 years ago
But the tools you speak of, are they his tools or his players' talents? I believe he has the tools in the toolbox, but I'm questioning if he has the skills to use those tools to get the job done.
Chutzpah515
14 years ago

But the tools you speak of, are they his tools or his players' talents? I believe he has the tools in the toolbox, but I'm questioning if he has the skills to use those tools to get the job done.

"K_Buz" wrote:



Agreed. :danceme:
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all_about_da_packers
14 years ago

I would never condone keeping someone around for the sake of consistency.

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Really?

You seem to imply the exact opposite in one of your previous posts. 
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zombieslayer
14 years ago
Just an FYI, Mike McCarthy did try to put them away. Rodgers threw a deep bomb to put the score at 35-23, but it was poorly underthrown and picked off. Had Rodgers had more on the ball and completed it, we would be saying "nice call, MM" and wouldn't be having this discussion right now.
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