Coach McCarthy· Page 8

Chutzpah515
Registered Topic Starter

14 years ago

#71

mm = Mike Sherman - (self-destruction)

musccy
Veteran Member

14 years ago

#72

Wow. I'm not trying to be a MM homer, but I think the rationale for the MM-hatred is way off. He lit into the team v. buffalo and look how they responded. The team was arguably the hottest in football last year going 7-1 after a slow start.

They had 1 awful game, but guess what, only THREE, teams in the NFL are undefeated right now, you think they didn't have mind-numbing moments of idiocy that cost them games? Should 29 coaches be handed out pink slips this morning?

Chutzpah515
Registered Topic Starter

14 years ago

#73

What i can't understand is why people protect this mm so much. The guy can only seem to motivate his team when his job is on the line. His best season (without ***** *****) as a coach was last year, after the team came back to life when his job was threatened after the loss to Tampa. The offense looks just as stale and flat this year as it did out of the gate last year.

porky88
Veteran Member

14 years ago

#74

Wow. I'm not trying to be a Mike McCarthy homer, but I think the rationale for the Mike McCarthy-hatred is way off. He lit into the team v. buffalo and look how they responded. The team was arguably the hottest in football last year going 7-1 after a slow start.

They had 1 awful game, but guess what, only THREE, teams in the NFL are undefeated right now, you think they didn't have mind-numbing moments of idiocy that cost them games? Should 29 coaches be handed out pink slips this morning?

"musccy" wrote:

Yeah, it's ridiculous. The Packers loss one game and now we should sacrifice Mike McCarthy to the football gods in hope of Vince Lombardi riding down on a white horse to save the season.

The offense moved the ball up and down the field against the Bears. They did so against Buffalo in the second half. That's six quarters of productive football. However, nobody can overcome the amount of penalties and the special teams play the Packers put on the field against Chicago.

The best offense in football is New Orleans and they haven't scored 30 yet. The season is a marathon and not a sprint. Much as the Packers won't score 30 every single game, they aren't going to commit as many penalties they did against the Bears in every game as well.

People also underestimate what McCarthy did last year. He went from being a coach who wanted to go down the field in the first half of the season to spreading the field and calling shorter passes in hopes that would setup the deep ball later in the game as well as the running game. In other words, he changed his approach.

Coaches don't do that or most of them dont. Mike Martz isn't doing anything different in Chicago for example and he won't even if Greg Olsen begins to feel left out. Yet, McCarthy did last year. That more than anything has me feeling fine about him as a play caller. Don't get me wrong, I have gripes, but not enough to attend any upcoming sacrifices.

Well, unless we lose to Detroit in Lambeau.

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Johnson
Registered

14 years ago

#75

first, steveretard...+1, hell +2!

second - johnson, "You keep blaming the players when you don't hold their leader to task." Who the hell is on the field? Mike McCarthy or the players? Are the adult multi-millionaires who have been playing this game for 15-25 years accountable for anything?

Some of this stuff, like a false start is about counting. Lets hire Bert and Ernie from Sesame Street to coach them how to count to 4 because apparently Mike McCarthy can't do that effectively!

The team lost their cool and couldn't handle a pressure situation last night. That sucks, but you learn more from losing than winning and shitty games happen. Didn't the lowly 'fins get their first win against the SB-bound patriots late in the season about 5 years ago on a monday night? I'm more concerned about the team evolving than I am with one awful game...if penalties and not going for the kill become a trend this season, I'll join many others on the Mike McCarthy fingerpointing bandwagon.

"musccy" wrote:

My statement stands. MM as the head coach is responible (ultimately) for penalties. That's first grade primer stuff; if you don't understand this then you don't understand the NFL and accountability.

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warhawk
Senior Member

14 years ago

#76

"Johnson" wrote:

My statement stands. Mike McCarthy as the head coach is responible (ultimately) for penalties. That's first grade primer stuff; if you don't understand this then you don't understand the NFL and accountability.

"musccy" wrote:

Clifton and Tauscher would go entire YEARS without a holding call. They know the deal and the coaches coach it and emphasis it. What do you think they are doing in the spring and in the voluntary and mandatory camps? Working on basics. Emphasizing technigue. You place an awful lot of accountibility on McCarthy here but where is the accountability for the players? McCarthy is a back-to-basics coach. Every time they hit a rough patch he announces "we're going back to the basics" and people here moan "is that all he can come up with?" Yet that normally is followed by a win streak.

You smash McCarthy as an OC and yet he produces offenses very near the top every year. I've had to say this a hundred times to guys like you and that is MM would get hired as not only an OC but as a HC before you could finish your first cup of coffee after he was let go.

Of course everyone here should just forget the fact that Rodgers LEARNED under MM, thrives in his system, and MM sets the offense up to make Rodgers as successful as he can be.

There's 25+ teams out there that would take the Rodgers/McCarthy combination in a heartbeat and all you do is bitch so go ahead and bitch because McCarthy ain't going nowhere. We'll see how far you have to stretch it when they start peeling off another long string of wins, which by the way, is historically another McCarthy-led team trait largely due to the fact he doesn't panic and start throwing players off the bus after one lousy game.

"The train is leaving the station."

Tezzy
Senior Member

14 years ago

#77

What i can't understand is why people protect this Mike McCarthy so much. The guy can only seem to motivate his team when his job is on the line. His best season (without ***** *****) as a coach was last year, after the team came back to life when his job was threatened after the loss to Tampa. The offense looks just as stale and flat this year as it did out of the gate last year.

"Chutzpah515" wrote:

Yeah, 4th in the league in scoring, talk about stale.

On top of every beard grows a man.
"The Bears are shell-shocked... and it's breaking my heart."

Nonstopdrivel
Preferred Member

14 years ago

#78

Don't you know, Tezzy, that the Packers must lead the league in all statistical categories at all times to be considered satisfactory?

Tezzy
Senior Member

14 years ago

#79

"Johnson" wrote:

"musccy" wrote:

A head coach is ultimately accountable for anything bad that is happening to a team, apparently you should have stayed in that first grade primer longer to learn the entire lesson. But the players are responsible for their actions, including those that cause penalties. Accountable and responsible are two different things. That's first year MBA primer stuff.

On top of every beard grows a man.
"The Bears are shell-shocked... and it's breaking my heart."

Tezzy
Senior Member

14 years ago

#80

Don't you know, Tezzy, that the Packers must lead the league in all statistical categories at all times to be considered satisfactory?

"Nonstopdrivel" wrote:

I knew I was doing something wrong NSD. Thanks for clearing that up.

On top of every beard grows a man.
"The Bears are shell-shocked... and it's breaking my heart."

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