McCarthy gets Coach of the Week

Zero2Cool
Elite Member Topic Starter

7 years ago

At least, from Peter King anyway. And to think, you folks want him gone! hahah

COACH OF THE WEEK

Mike McCarthy, head coach, Green Bay. I thought the design and the play-calling on the tying and winning drives in the 26-20 win over Tampa Bay were very good. McCarthy knows he can’t totally trust Brett Hundley in the passing game, so he designed some read-option for Hundley, and that resulted in the crucial two plays of the winning drive. Hundley made a beautiful fake into the gut of Jamaal Williams and ran around right end for 18 to the Bucs’ 41-yard line; then he faked a jet sweep and dumped a pass to Williams along the right sideline for 12 more. One other thing: The Packers won a game they had to have using Brett Hundley (fifth round, 2015) and backs Jamaal Williams (fourth round, 2017) and Aaron Jones (fifth round, 2017) as the key weapons on that final 72-yard drive in overtime. That’s good playing, and good coaching. Kudos to the oft-embattled McCarthy.

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buckeyepackfan
Veteran Member

7 years ago

I agree,
Hundley gets one more start.
Now,The Browns are going to have to game plan for the read option.
That should ease the pass rush a little and the running game can only benefit.

Mike is better than most.

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uffda udfa
Veteran Member

7 years ago

I was screaming about the read option from the beginning. Why we stopped running it deserves an answer and much scrutiny...how can this alleged Packers "hater" and football know nothing be calling these things out and Mike McCarthy the HC isn't getting them? He was too afraid Hundley was going to get hurt.

Cam Newton runs... Russell Wilson runs... they have to... If they do, how much more does Hundley to be successful?

Glad Peter King thinks Mike McCarthy is coach of the week. Good for him. He doesn't watch this team week after week. He probably saw the OT highlights and saw the stats previous and concluded he had to be a genius to get a win out of a group that had performed like that for 4 quarters. It was the defense capitalizing on Bucs mistakes that kept us in this game. Thank GOD we won the coin toss.

Hundley may get four more starts. No guarantee 12's clavicle is healed.

Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."

beast
Select Member

7 years ago

I was screaming about the read option from the beginning. Why we stopped running it deserves an answer and much scrutiny

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa

He was too afraid Hundley was going to get hurt.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa

Is this a guess, or you making a statement of fact? Because it seems as you're saying as a statement of fact, which if so, then you already have the answer... so why does it need to be answered, if you already have the answer?

Early on I thought the read option was bad for Hundley, not because he'd get hurt, but from his mental staying composed in the pocket standpoint. Hundley was doing decent staying calm in the pocket, and then they'd call some read option and afterwards Hundley would be a lot more frantic in the pocket which would lead to trouble. That's not a fact, just a trend that I thought I was noticing.

uffda udfa
Veteran Member

7 years ago

Sorry, noted...will try mixing it up for you.

I saw that Hundley could run. With Jones as a legit threat back with him it would have to be honored and thus likely more successful.

Hundley had a reported hamstring issue. There is no other possible way for me to understand his decision to not run Hundley minus him fearing he would get hurt.

Our media has to pose these types of questions to MM. I was in media...I would be asking them because they're obvious. So obvious that you have to call into question the relationship between our media and the org. Do you have any thoughts on why tough questions aren't asked of MM? Or...Why tough follow ups aren't asked to weak responses?

You know I'm an accentuator...take what you have and use it. Hundley can run. So have Hundley run. Hundley can't pass, so don't have him passing so much. Jordy is effective because he played with 12 and had a mind meld. He is completely ineffective with Hundley. Throw Davis or Janis out there and let them use their speed to create separation. Use what we have. Hundley needs to see a guy open not throw him open. Who has better chance of creating it? Jordy or Janis? Janis can flat out run. Let him do it. Hundley ain't gonna care about precision in routes like 12 would. Hundley isn't precise. It maddens me to watch what we have to watch week after week while everyone thinks Mike McCarthy is some great coach. Use your TALENT to it's STRENGTHS.
Mike McCarthy has Hundley trying to run Aaron's offense. Good luck with that. How about running Hundley's offense rife with read option runs? How about that? No...let's put on pathetic displays after pathetic displays and not CHANGE. We need CHANGE to TALENT and STRENGTHS. We have NONE of that right now.

Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."

buckeyepackfan
Veteran Member

7 years ago

You seriously have overused the "deserves an answer and more scrutiny" line to the point that phrase is completely meaningless coming from you... because anything and everything has fallen under the same label making it so generic that it's a pointless label now. You should mix up the labels more.

Is this a guess, or you making a statement of fact? Because it seems as you're saying as a statement of fact, which if so, then you already have the answer... so why does it need to be answered, if you already have the answer?

Early on I thought the read option was bad for Hundley, not because he'd get hurt, but from his mental staying composed in the pocket standpoint. Hundley was doing decent staying calm in the pocket, and then they'd call some read option and afterwards Hundley would be a lot more frantic in the pocket which would lead to trouble. That's not a fact, just a trend that I thought I was noticing.

Originally Posted by: beast

Some will argue just for the sake of arguing!
😂😂😂😂😂
I'm pretty sure the only person Mike needs to answer to is Ted Thompson.
Some just don't understand that.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

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beast
Select Member

7 years ago

You know I'm an accentuator...take what you have and use it.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa

I do? ... what's an "accentuator"?

Hundley can run. So have Hundley run. Hundley can't pass, so don't have him passing so much. Jordy is effective because he played with 12 and had a mind meld. He is completely ineffective with Hundley. Throw Davis or Janis out there and let them use their speed to create separation. Use what we have. Hundley needs to see a guy open not throw him open. Who has better chance of creating it? Jordy or Janis? Janis can flat out run. Let him do it.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa

If you avoid the pass too much, then teams can simply just target the running game.

I think many of us have wondered if the speed WRs might be able to do more, but considering they haven't even been able to beat out Allison?... and as you said, Hundley has to see them open... just because they have speed doesn't mean they can get open, or that Hundley can correctly read it to throw it in the right direction for them to adjust.

I see you simply saying, this isn't working, let's try something different... and I think most agree, but we (outsiders) won't know if a change for change sake will improve things until it's attempted, where insiders MIGHT know because they have a lot more facts. Though personally, I'd really like to see a WR screen to a speed WR.

uffda udfa
Veteran Member

7 years ago

Janis caught a TD vs. Philly in preseason that I believe was thrown by Hundley. Janis used his speed and was wide open in endzone.

You're right...not working...change...try something different. But...change to what should've been all along.

Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."

Barfarn
Senior Member

7 years ago

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa

I'll answer the 1st part of the question only because the 2nd part will take years of therapy 😂.

The read option is a bitch because it takes every instinct a defensive player has and uses it against them. However the reason you don see it often ANYWHERE is because of the way NFL DC's defend it these days. They simply instruct/practice the QB to be hit whether he has the ball or not! And this is 100% legal.

It may work once or twice; but if you run it with any regularity; Hundley is gonna be takin' some big hits and he doesnt look like he's built to take them like Walter Payton or Russell Wilson. Hundley is likely to be snapped in half like a dried up chicken bone.

uffda udfa
Veteran Member

7 years ago

#10

I understand that and is the only reason to not run it. Newton obviously is built for it but he's got a shoulder issue and still does it. Wilson ain't stout.

It's a strength of his...one of the few and should be accentuated.

Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."

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