Finley88Beast
14 years ago
This is the thing we have to overcome and really the thing is all we need to do is set up the pass that's all.I mean we do not need Jackson to break out big runs like AP to have a good running game.To this sense im having we need to have a little more carries even if the running game isn't working.We need to be closer to balanced than pass pass pass pass run pass pass etc. etc. you get my drift.I would like to see at least 15 carries a week by Jackson.The thing that bothered me was that they started using kuhn on the first snaps of the game.
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TengoJuego
14 years ago
It'd be interesting to see how Starks is doing, right now. How has his rehab been?

Would make for a great story, for him to come in week 6 or 7 and run wild ala 2007 Ryan Grant. But that's all a fantasy, most likely.
millertime
14 years ago
The thing that was great about Ryan Grant was that the guy NEVER got tackled for a loss. He might not have been a great receiving back, but he always gain positive yards.

Jackson routinely got stopped behind the LOS last night, setting up longer 2nd and 3rd downs for the offense. Kuhn will never be a threat to break a long run. That is why we struggled last night.
millertime
14 years ago

It'd be interesting to see how Starks is doing, right now. How has his rehab been?

Would make for a great story, for him to come in week 6 or 7 and run wild ala 2007 Ryan Grant. But that's all a fantasy, most likely.

"TengoJuego" wrote:



You'd think, but the same thing happened with Gado as well. RB is the one position where relative unknowns can really shine most frequently.
Chutzpah515
14 years ago

The thing that was great about Ryan Grant was that the guy NEVER got tackled for a loss. He might not have been a great receiving back, but he always gain positive yards.

Jackson routinely got stopped behind the LOS last night, setting up longer 2nd and 3rd downs for the offense. Kuhn will never be a threat to break a long run. That is why we struggled last night.

"millertime" wrote:



yeah he always made sure he was tackled for no gain.
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DarkaneRules
14 years ago
The Bears run defense is incredible this year. I rate it slightly above the Steelers as best in the NFL. We don't have a good run blocking run line as it stands either.

The pass WAS working for us last night. Jones forgot to switch hands and protect the ball, and several vets forgot to put on their big boy pants.
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zombieslayer
14 years ago

This is the thing we have to overcome and really the thing is all we need to do is set up the pass that's all.I mean we do not need Jackson to break out big runs like AP to have a good running game.To this sense im having we need to have a little more carries even if the running game isn't working.We need to be closer to balanced than pass pass pass pass run pass pass etc. etc. you get my drift.I would like to see at least 15 carries a week by Jackson.The thing that bothered me was that they started using kuhn on the first snaps of the game.

"Finley88Beast" wrote:



I'd rather see more screens to Jackson than carries. He gets tackled for a loss.

Kuhn's good for pounding for a few yards and making defenders hurt afterward.

I'm perfectly fine with 70% pass/30% rush. Balance is silly nowadays that the rules have changed to make passing so favorable.

Our O is fine. Take away those penalties and we wouldn't be having this discussion. Let's not forget about all the big plays we had that got called back due to penalties. We'd be talking about a completely different game and everyone will be saying how awesome our O is.
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Chutzpah515
14 years ago

This is the thing we have to overcome and really the thing is all we need to do is set up the pass that's all.I mean we do not need Jackson to break out big runs like AP to have a good running game.To this sense im having we need to have a little more carries even if the running game isn't working.We need to be closer to balanced than pass pass pass pass run pass pass etc. etc. you get my drift.I would like to see at least 15 carries a week by Jackson.The thing that bothered me was that they started using kuhn on the first snaps of the game.

"zombieslayer" wrote:



I'd rather see more screens to Jackson than carries. He gets tackled for a loss.

Kuhn's good for pounding for a few yards and making defenders hurt afterward.

I'm perfectly fine with 70% pass/30% rush. Balance is silly nowadays that the rules have changed to make passing so favorable.

Our O is fine. Take away those penalties and we wouldn't be having this discussion. Let's not forget about all the big plays we had that got called back due to penalties. We'd be talking about a completely different game and everyone will be saying how awesome our O is.

"Finley88Beast" wrote:



i was surpised they didn't run any screens period last night
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Stevetarded
14 years ago
I just don't get all of the people complaining who expected us to have an established running game last night vs a team that has given up 1.0 and 1.8 ypc in their 2 other games this year.

Top if off with the fact that they have a bad pass defense and we have a very good pass offense.
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porky88
14 years ago

...We will not be a SuperBowl Caliber team. IMHO no team has ever won the Super Bowl without a well balanced running/passing game and right now we have no running game, nor will Mike McCarthy alllow one to develop. I am not sure what it is with this guy, but every season it's the same M.O.
with him.

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New Orleans Saints 2009.

"twebdonny" wrote:



Actually, they had a top ten running offense. Not nearly as bad as people think in that department.
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