IronMan
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14 years ago
Gotta give credit to Dan Patrick for the idea.

To me, its easy. I want to be the starter. Money is important, but its not everything.

If you are the starting qb for a NFL team, you can date whoever the hell you want. As a back up, yeah, you'll get laid, but Maria Sharapova isn't going to date a back up qb.

Thoughts?
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Starter. I'm too competitive to sit on the bench. Unless there's circumstances that we mention.. like if it means I'm starting on a horsecrap team.. Maybe I'll ride the pine. Or if the team is a Super Bowl bound team, I'm willing to ride the pine.

But take away all those circumstances.. I'd much rather play.
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14 years ago
starter -

for those philosophers the question was asked - if you had everything you ever wanted; what would you do then? ...
and the answer may be - to realize that the things that you truely wanted were not the things on the outside but on the inside.
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14 years ago
Backup at $10 million or whatever contract gives me the most guaranteed money. The moment someone realizes that their backup QB has no significant football experience and injury-prone legs/knees, my ass is gone.

Assuming I have starter-quality skills and experience? Probably a starter, although can I be traded and become a starter with another team if I take the 10 mil?
Zero2Cool
14 years ago
I'd be a starter at my current salary before being a backup at any salary.

Dreams > Cash
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14 years ago

I'd be a starter at my current salary before being a backup at any salary.

Dreams > Cash

"Zero2Cool" wrote:



To be perfectly fair though, if you weren't magically given NFL-caliber skills you would quickly go down in the books as the worst NFL quarterback ever. If you got no skill increase as part of this scenario, wouldn't you want to ride the bench? You'd get killed on and off the field.

It's kind of like one of those "asshole genie" scenarios. If you're not being very specific with your wishes, you're leaving yourself open to unintended consequences.
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14 years ago
To me I would take the starter job, you do a good job and you will eventually make more than 10 million a year.
Just Imagine this for the next 6-9 years. What a ride it will be 🙂 (PS, Zero should charge for this)
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Nonstopdrivel
14 years ago
Or you could start out as the backup, be there when the starter goes down, and go on to make much more than the $10 million a year when you take over for him.

As for the argument that a backup quarterback wouldn't get as much pussy, all I have to say is that if you can't get laid as a backup NFL quarterback, you might as well cut off your dick and feed it to your dog, because you wouldn't be able to get laid as a starting quarterback either. If you think Maria Sharapova wouldn't date a backup QB, spend some time on IMDb and see how many famous, beautiful actresses are married to absolute nobodies: makeup artists and guys with a single production supervisor credit to their names. It happens everyday. Women care first and foremost about how you make them feel -- about themselves, about life. Everything else is secondary.

If it were really true that Maria Sharapova wouldn't date a backup, why would you want to date her anyway? There are far hotter women in the world.
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zombieslayer
14 years ago
Maria Sharapova is a 6'1" natural blonde with a history of winning. Yes, she's not the prettiest girl in the world from a purely aesthetic standpoint but she's sexy as they come. She's on my top 10.

Agreed about the dating. If you take hot & famous women, a lot of them are married to guys that simply looked them in the eyes the right way and listened emphatically. You put two Type A people together in a marriage and it almost always ends with the D word. Why do you think Hollywood couples never last?

Now back to the original point, I'd be the backup. I'd much rather be able to walk down to the grocery store and buy whatever I want without a hundred people asking for my autograph. Being rich and not recognizable, that's awesome. Much better than fame. Fame is for the insecure.

Yes, it's a dream for many to be a starter. I respect that. That shows drive & ambition, two traits I admire in people. Me? I'd rather have good knees and make the big bucks and pat the starter on the back after he threw a marvelous TD pass.

Starters get hurt. Fact of life. Say what you want about being tough & all that jazz but I'd rather be able to walk in my 70s on my cruise ship with my mistresses. You tough guys go beat each other up. I'll be in my compound with the ladies.
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TwinkieGorilla
14 years ago
starter, duh.

I agree with Twinkiegorilla.

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Wade
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14 years ago
Too often have I been on the wrong side in markets where prices are skewed. I'd take the 10 and be backup.

I'm greedy. I'm crass. I'm lazy. I'm averse to physical injury.

And I'd rather be richer.

Not even a hard decision.
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14 years ago
Uh oh Wade. Yet another thing we agree on.
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Zero2Cool
14 years ago

I'd be a starter at my current salary before being a backup at any salary.

Dreams > Cash

"Porforis" wrote:



To be perfectly fair though, if you weren't magically given NFL-caliber skills you would quickly go down in the books as the worst NFL quarterback ever. If you got no skill increase as part of this scenario, wouldn't you want to ride the bench? You'd get killed on and off the field.

It's kind of like one of those "asshole genie" scenarios. If you're not being very specific with your wishes, you're leaving yourself open to unintended consequences.

"Zero2Cool" wrote:



Who are you to say who doesn't have or have talent? Hell, you might be more talented at QB than 5 players in the NFL, but never had the opportunity or passion to give it a go.

To answer your question, no, because I have passion, desire, diligence to be better. And I also have the intelligence and experience to know it takes MORE than talent to be a good player in the NFL.

Do you think I'd care about getting killed?

I would love to ramble here with stories of me getting my ass kicked while I played against high schoolers when in middle school or when in high school was playing against college athletes/grown men, but you'd chime in with 'thats not the NFL' and completely miss the point. Pain means nothing to me. Getting up after a hit that makes everyone cringe, means much more.

Do you think I'd care about what people said about me during or after I was fulfilling my dream? Child, please.



The worst in the history books? If any person here played QB at all, then hopped into the NFL, I struggle believing we'd be worst than TJ Rubley or many others.





Bottom line ...
FACT: You need more than talent to be better than the worst in the NFL. Talent means squat if you don't have passion and desire, don't believe that, talk to JaMarcus Russell.
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GermanGilbert
14 years ago
even matt millen wouldn't be stupid enough to pay me more than 2 bucks for being a football player.

Speaking subjunctively though, I take the 10 millions as a backup any day of the week. My lung isn't built to move around more than 1 minute, let alone 60. That said, i would even take 5 millions as a backup over 10 millions as a starter. even with 5 millions you can date gorgous women :downtown:
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Wade
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14 years ago

Uh oh Wade. Yet another thing we agree on.

"zombieslayer" wrote:



:)

Another reason:
starter: ice bath alone on monday morning, tuesday morning, etc.
backup: hot tub accompanied on monday night, tuesday night, etc.
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14 years ago
Neither.. I would rather be that defensive player knocking either one of their heads off. ;)

Seriously though, why even be in the game if you are okay with being that "clipboard" guy.. simply put... get the hell off my field.
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Wade
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14 years ago
hey....we didn't say we'd require 10 million to hold the clipboard.....just said we'd take it if you offered. 🙂
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Zero2Cool
14 years ago

Neither.. I would rather be that defensive player knocking either one of their heads off. ;)

Seriously though, why even be in the game if you are okay with being that "clipboard" guy.. simply put... get the hell off my field.

"pack93z" wrote:



Yep, $5 million is plenty for my life and my daughters lives to be set comfortably. PLUS, I get to live a dream of mine?

The extra $5 million isn't worth missing out on that opportunity. Money does not buy happiness, I don't care what anyone says.
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Wade
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I wonder if one could buy a bungalow in Tahiti for the extra 5 million. *That's* one of my dreams.

Getting knocked all over the field by a bunch of guys in Spandex? er. no.
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zombieslayer
14 years ago


:)

Another reason:
starter: ice bath alone on monday morning, tuesday morning, etc.
backup: hot tub accompanied on monday night, tuesday night, etc.

"Wade" wrote:



Exactly. Pack93z and Zero can beat each other up for 16 games a season for all I care and see who is the more manly man. Then they can hold ice packs for each other for the next two or three days.

Meanwhile, I'll take that extra $5 million and be unmanly in the hot tub with two or three hot topless babes. "So, sweetheart, tell me what do you REALLY want out of life?"

I imagine Wade has dibs on Jessica Biel. Good choice. I'll take Maria Sharapova as NSD doesn't want her. "Sweetheart, I can appreciate how you feel about being unwanted. Come here and let ZS rub your back."

Those meatheads have their priorities out of whack.
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