Pack93z
16 years ago
I think you will see another game similar to last Sunday..we will run the ball at them until either we bleed or they do.. control the clock and keep our defense fresh.. I think maybe Mike McCarthy and the staff are starting to get a pulse of this team..

But good point Warhawk.. spooky on the similarities.
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ILikeThePackers39
16 years ago

Colts picked up McCargo at DE. I know game circumstances dictated some of it, but the Colt held the #2 rushing offense in the league to 50 yards last week. The Colts are getting healthy and rounding into form. I think they win 31-17.

"warhawk" wrote:




That trade was nixed -- McCargo didn't pass the physical, so he's back in Buffalo. So he won't be there to help them.

"ILikeThePackers39" wrote:



Good news at least. That makes it 31-20 Colts ;)

"WhiskeySam" wrote:




Crap. Now we need 10 points more worth of good news.

"ILikeThePackers39" wrote:



How about this?

The 51 yards by allowed by Indy against Baltimore is one of those stats where the numbers don't reflect the quality of play.

Baltimore with the ball in the first quarter:

Drive One: INT by Flacco
Drive Two: 3 and out
Drive three: fumbled, recovered, punt
Drive four: Fumble, Colts ball

End of first quarter score: 17-0. Guess who's winning?

Now you've got a run-first team with no rythm at all and getting your butt kicked away from home.

That first quarter was the mother of silver platters for Indy's rush defense and about the only thing this tells me is if we screw up that bad and end up down 17-0 in the first quarter we will probably not gain a lot of yards on the ground that day.

That should be worth the 10 points right there.

"WhiskeySam" wrote:




Considering that I really believe that if the Packers can play their game to a high level they've got every chance to beat the Colts, this is more than sufficient for me. It's the NFL, and whoever prepares the best and wants it the most will win -- just like the Browns pasted the Giants on Monday, even though nobody gave them a chance to even keep that game close.
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WhiskeySam
16 years ago

Colts picked up McCargo at DE. I know game circumstances dictated some of it, but the Colt held the #2 rushing offense in the league to 50 yards last week. The Colts are getting healthy and rounding into form. I think they win 31-17.

"warhawk" wrote:




That trade was nixed -- McCargo didn't pass the physical, so he's back in Buffalo. So he won't be there to help them.

"ILikeThePackers39" wrote:



Good news at least. That makes it 31-20 Colts ;)

"WhiskeySam" wrote:




Crap. Now we need 10 points more worth of good news.

"ILikeThePackers39" wrote:



How about this?

The 51 yards by allowed by Indy against Baltimore is one of those stats where the numbers don't reflect the quality of play.

Baltimore with the ball in the first quarter:

Drive One: INT by Flacco
Drive Two: 3 and out
Drive three: fumbled, recovered, punt
Drive four: Fumble, Colts ball

End of first quarter score: 17-0. Guess who's winning?

Now you've got a run-first team with no rythm at all and getting your butt kicked away from home.

That first quarter was the mother of silver platters for Indy's rush defense and about the only thing this tells me is if we screw up that bad and end up down 17-0 in the first quarter we will probably not gain a lot of yards on the ground that day.

That should be worth the 10 points right there.

"WhiskeySam" wrote:



Except if you watched the game, you saw the Colts D-line playing some of their best football all season and stuffing the run. Drives 2, 3, and 4 reflect how well the Colts were playing D before they jumped out to the huge lead. Where in the 2.7 yards per carry we got last week does that translate into us dominating this next game on the ground? When have we shown that ability at all in six weeks of play? I'd love to be wrong, but I'm just not seeing it.
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ILikeThePackers39
16 years ago

Colts picked up McCargo at DE. I know game circumstances dictated some of it, but the Colt held the #2 rushing offense in the league to 50 yards last week. The Colts are getting healthy and rounding into form. I think they win 31-17.

"WhiskeySam" wrote:




That trade was nixed -- McCargo didn't pass the physical, so he's back in Buffalo. So he won't be there to help them.

"warhawk" wrote:



Good news at least. That makes it 31-20 Colts ;)

"ILikeThePackers39" wrote:




Crap. Now we need 10 points more worth of good news.

"WhiskeySam" wrote:



How about this?

The 51 yards by allowed by Indy against Baltimore is one of those stats where the numbers don't reflect the quality of play.

Baltimore with the ball in the first quarter:

Drive One: INT by Flacco
Drive Two: 3 and out
Drive three: fumbled, recovered, punt
Drive four: Fumble, Colts ball

End of first quarter score: 17-0. Guess who's winning?

Now you've got a run-first team with no rythm at all and getting your butt kicked away from home.

That first quarter was the mother of silver platters for Indy's rush defense and about the only thing this tells me is if we screw up that bad and end up down 17-0 in the first quarter we will probably not gain a lot of yards on the ground that day.

That should be worth the 10 points right there.

"ILikeThePackers39" wrote:



Except if you watched the game, you saw the Colts D-line playing some of their best football all season and stuffing the run. Drives 2, 3, and 4 reflect how well the Colts were playing D before they jumped out to the huge lead. Where in the 2.7 yards per carry we got last week does that translate into us dominating this next game on the ground? When have we shown that ability at all in six weeks of play? I'd love to be wrong, but I'm just not seeing it.

"WhiskeySam" wrote:



Question (because I don't know - not being a smartass): Was McGahee playing in that game? Their RB depth is a good 2-3 steps behind him ability-wise, IMO.

Also, we didn't dominate in YPC last week, but we set up manageable 3rd down conversions and controlled TOP. That's exactly what we need to do this week, as well.
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WhiskeySam
16 years ago

Colts picked up McCargo at DE. I know game circumstances dictated some of it, but the Colt held the #2 rushing offense in the league to 50 yards last week. The Colts are getting healthy and rounding into form. I think they win 31-17.

"ILikeThePackers39" wrote:




That trade was nixed -- McCargo didn't pass the physical, so he's back in Buffalo. So he won't be there to help them.

"WhiskeySam" wrote:



Good news at least. That makes it 31-20 Colts ;)

"warhawk" wrote:




Crap. Now we need 10 points more worth of good news.

"ILikeThePackers39" wrote:



How about this?

The 51 yards by allowed by Indy against Baltimore is one of those stats where the numbers don't reflect the quality of play.

Baltimore with the ball in the first quarter:

Drive One: INT by Flacco
Drive Two: 3 and out
Drive three: fumbled, recovered, punt
Drive four: Fumble, Colts ball

End of first quarter score: 17-0. Guess who's winning?

Now you've got a run-first team with no rythm at all and getting your butt kicked away from home.

That first quarter was the mother of silver platters for Indy's rush defense and about the only thing this tells me is if we screw up that bad and end up down 17-0 in the first quarter we will probably not gain a lot of yards on the ground that day.

That should be worth the 10 points right there.

"WhiskeySam" wrote:



Except if you watched the game, you saw the Colts D-line playing some of their best football all season and stuffing the run. Drives 2, 3, and 4 reflect how well the Colts were playing D before they jumped out to the huge lead. Where in the 2.7 yards per carry we got last week does that translate into us dominating this next game on the ground? When have we shown that ability at all in six weeks of play? I'd love to be wrong, but I'm just not seeing it.

"ILikeThePackers39" wrote:



Question (because I don't know - not being a smartass): Was McGahee playing in that game? Their RB depth is a good 2-3 steps behind him ability-wise, IMO.

Also, we didn't dominate in YPC last week, but we set up manageable 3rd down conversions and controlled TOP. That's exactly what we need to do this week, as well.

"WhiskeySam" wrote:



McGahee played and got most of the carries.
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ILikeThePackers39
16 years ago

Colts picked up McCargo at DE. I know game circumstances dictated some of it, but the Colt held the #2 rushing offense in the league to 50 yards last week. The Colts are getting healthy and rounding into form. I think they win 31-17.

"WhiskeySam" wrote:




That trade was nixed -- McCargo didn't pass the physical, so he's back in Buffalo. So he won't be there to help them.

"ILikeThePackers39" wrote:



Good news at least. That makes it 31-20 Colts ;)

"WhiskeySam" wrote:




Crap. Now we need 10 points more worth of good news.

"warhawk" wrote:



How about this?

The 51 yards by allowed by Indy against Baltimore is one of those stats where the numbers don't reflect the quality of play.

Baltimore with the ball in the first quarter:

Drive One: INT by Flacco
Drive Two: 3 and out
Drive three: fumbled, recovered, punt
Drive four: Fumble, Colts ball

End of first quarter score: 17-0. Guess who's winning?

Now you've got a run-first team with no rythm at all and getting your butt kicked away from home.

That first quarter was the mother of silver platters for Indy's rush defense and about the only thing this tells me is if we screw up that bad and end up down 17-0 in the first quarter we will probably not gain a lot of yards on the ground that day.

That should be worth the 10 points right there.

"ILikeThePackers39" wrote:



Except if you watched the game, you saw the Colts D-line playing some of their best football all season and stuffing the run. Drives 2, 3, and 4 reflect how well the Colts were playing D before they jumped out to the huge lead. Where in the 2.7 yards per carry we got last week does that translate into us dominating this next game on the ground? When have we shown that ability at all in six weeks of play? I'd love to be wrong, but I'm just not seeing it.

"WhiskeySam" wrote:



Question (because I don't know - not being a smartass): Was McGahee playing in that game? Their RB depth is a good 2-3 steps behind him ability-wise, IMO.

Also, we didn't dominate in YPC last week, but we set up manageable 3rd down conversions and controlled TOP. That's exactly what we need to do this week, as well.

"ILikeThePackers39" wrote:



McGahee played and got most of the carries.

"WhiskeySam" wrote:



Interesting, thanks. And more indication that the O-Line is going to have to get it together this week. I hope Jackson's feeling better, we'll probably need him.
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gakko
16 years ago
I think it would be foolish to underestimate the Colts like this. They first really got going last week and they have a highly potent offense.
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gakko
16 years ago

Colts picked up McCargo at DE. I know game circumstances dictated some of it, but the Colt held the #2 rushing offense in the league to 50 yards last week. The Colts are getting healthy and rounding into form. I think they win 31-17.

"ILikeThePackers39" wrote:




That trade was nixed -- McCargo didn't pass the physical, so he's back in Buffalo. So he won't be there to help them.

"WhiskeySam" wrote:



Good news at least. That makes it 31-20 Colts ;)

"ILikeThePackers39" wrote:




Crap. Now we need 10 points more worth of good news.

"WhiskeySam" wrote:



How about this?

The 51 yards by allowed by Indy against Baltimore is one of those stats where the numbers don't reflect the quality of play.

Baltimore with the ball in the first quarter:

Drive One: INT by Flacco
Drive Two: 3 and out
Drive three: fumbled, recovered, punt
Drive four: Fumble, Colts ball

End of first quarter score: 17-0. Guess who's winning?

Now you've got a run-first team with no rythm at all and getting your butt kicked away from home.

That first quarter was the mother of silver platters for Indy's rush defense and about the only thing this tells me is if we screw up that bad and end up down 17-0 in the first quarter we will probably not gain a lot of yards on the ground that day.

That should be worth the 10 points right there.

"warhawk" wrote:



Except if you watched the game, you saw the Colts D-line playing some of their best football all season and stuffing the run. Drives 2, 3, and 4 reflect how well the Colts were playing D before they jumped out to the huge lead. Where in the 2.7 yards per carry we got last week does that translate into us dominating this next game on the ground? When have we shown that ability at all in six weeks of play? I'd love to be wrong, but I'm just not seeing it.

"ILikeThePackers39" wrote:



Question (because I don't know - not being a smartass): Was McGahee playing in that game? Their RB depth is a good 2-3 steps behind him ability-wise, IMO.

Also, we didn't dominate in YPC last week, but we set up manageable 3rd down conversions and controlled TOP. That's exactly what we need to do this week, as well.

"WhiskeySam" wrote:



McGahee played and got most of the carries.

"ILikeThePackers39" wrote:



Interesting, thanks. And more indication that the O-Line is going to have to get it together this week. I hope Jackson's feeling better, we'll probably need him.

"WhiskeySam" wrote:



This is a misrepresentation of the facts. Willis McGahee ran 8 times in that game before he went out with an injury and stayed out for the rest of the game. Hardly enough carries to get a RB like McGahee going.
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WhiskeySam
16 years ago
McGahee played until halfway through the third quarter. By that point it was 31-0, and Indy had completely shut down the Ravens' run game. The official game book stats are here:
http://www.nfl.com/liveupdate/gamecenter/29605/IND_Gamebook.pdf 
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warhawk
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16 years ago
McGahee carried the ball 8 times and Rice six and Mclain two for the only carries by the RB's in that game for Baltimore.

That's only about 20 less carries between these two you would expect and reflective of how quickly they were taken out of the picture in this game.

The only reason they are one of the "top" rushing teams in the first place is because they run it more than any other team in the league at 36 per game. They only average 3.7 ypc which, like us, is towards the low end of the league.

How many games do you need to see where one team gets up a bunch and the opponents running stats are horrible? For me, if this game was like 10 to 10 at the end of the third quarter and Indy held them to 51 yards running for an entire game I would be much more impressed.
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