Greg C.
14 years ago

Of course, there was also that preseason play in which James Jones emerged from a pileup of defenders without his helmet and ran the ball in for a touchdown.

What bothers me most about this play is twofold: First, it unnecessarily interrupts the natural flow of play. Second, it opens the door to defenders (or in the case of a turnover, offensive players) pulling off their helmets in a last-ditch effort to save a touchdown. Of course, officials would then throw an unsportsmanlike conduct flag, but I'd trade a 15-yard penalty for a touchdown any day.

I hope there are enough abuses of this rule that it is overturned quickly.

"Nonstopdrivel" wrote:



I referred to the James Jones play in my original post. It was an awesome play. And by the way, I now remember the fullback who made that play against the Redskins: It was Nick Luchey.

Cheesey does make a valid point: Without this rule, it would be bad news if somebody got seriously hurt after their helmet got ripped off. But I hate the rule anyway.
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Wade
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14 years ago



Plus why only the ball carrier? If someone else loses a helmet the play still goes on? What a linebacker lost his helmet and he swoops in to make a tackle. That's pretty damn dangerous isn't it? Or anyone on the line losing their helmets, they battle the whole frickin' play.

"djcubez" wrote:



Exactly.

Plays like the one of Jones (or of Jason Whitten a few years ago)...those are probably about the most riskfree of helmetless plays there are (except perhaps for the kicker on extra points). If they were truly serious, they'd focus on where helmets of linemen and LBs/TEs come off. Or blockers/tacklers on returns.
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Dexter_Sinister
14 years ago
If they want to stop head injuries, the guy who speared Grant in the jaw with the crown of his helmet should get suspended without pay for 6 games. That will stop that it in a hurry. A $5,000.00 fine for some one who makes 3 mil a year to make those hits, won't do anything.

6 games without pay will make the punishment equal, no matter how much they get paid.
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alharrisdude31
14 years ago
the nfl is getting more pussier by the year
eap33
14 years ago

the nfl is getting more pussier by the year

"alharrisdude31" wrote:



I'm gonna go with........ "yes".
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TengoJuego
14 years ago
Did you guys see the hit Eli Manning took last week against the Jets? Busted his head open after losing his helmet. He actually fumbled the ball on the play. That was probably the first real test of this rule. But I dont know what can happen when the ball is loose. Someone needs to take possession. It cant be blown dead.

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Dexter_Sinister
14 years ago
That wouldn't have applied, he didn't have the ball when he lost his helmet and the injury happened before the whistle would have blown.
I want to go out like my Grandpa did. Peacefully in his sleep.
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Formo
14 years ago

Did you guys see the hit Eli Manning took last week against the Jets? Busted his head open after losing his helmet. He actually fumbled the ball on the play. That was probably the first real test of this rule. But I dont know what can happen when the ball is loose. Someone needs to take possession. It cant be blown dead.

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"TengoJuego" wrote:



Ouch. Reminds me of Shawn Michaels of WWE fame.
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