Are the Packers really Super Bowl contenders?· Page 2

Nonstopdrivel
Preferred Member

14 years ago

#11

until we prove that we have a championship caliber defense.. I think we fall short.

"pack93z" wrote:

But you can't prove you have a championship-caliber defense until you've won a championship. 😛

Pack93z
Select Member

14 years ago

#12

until we prove that we have a championship caliber defense.. I think we fall short.

"Nonstopdrivel" wrote:

But you can't prove you have a championship-caliber defense until you've won a championship. :P

"pack93z" wrote:

When we meet Pro Bowl QB's and dynamic offenses in the regular season.. we don't fold like a cheap umbrella.

"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"

dfosterf
Veteran Member

14 years ago

#13

Two things will determine how far this team goes:
1. Offensive line.
2. Defensive front seven.

Before the first preseason I was worried about #1 (surprise, surprise 🙂 ), and not worried about #2. Now I'm a small bit less worried about #1, and a bit more worried about #2.

OL I won't be surprised if we see Tausch/Sitton/Wells/Bulaga/Newhouse before the end of the year.
DL I'm more concerned with depth for the rotation than anything else.

But for now, I'm still waiting until October before deciding to go toward giddiness or bitchiness.

"Wade" wrote:

Precisely that.

+1

Rockmolder
Honored Member

14 years ago

#14

"dfosterf" wrote:

Precisely that.

+1

"Wade" wrote:

I recall someone being heavy into drafting an OLB. Something a retired marine and college professor did not want any part off.

1st round - Jerry Hughes.
2nd round - Charles Brown.

I could've been great.

Pack93z
Select Member

14 years ago

#15

Oline has been improved.. and Mike McCarthy proved in the second half of the season that this team can win without a dominate offensive line.

The 96 Packers also proved that notion.. a great QB, an effective gameplan and a solid set of running backs can help mask a average offensive line.

But it also proved one other thing.. you have to have a defense.

Think back to 96.. they had a solid secondary and a DC that could manufacture pressure.. until we solidify the safety spots and communication in the backend.. we need a once in the century pass rush to cover that nonsense..

Not disagreeing that we need more pressure up front.. and guys that can effectively blitz the QB and get there.. but we can't have guys getting wide open in the secondary if one to three beats of the snap.. lol.

"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"

Yerko
Senior Member

14 years ago

#16

There are definitely some good points made in this article and then there are some outlandish points.

1. Aaron Rodgers IS an elite QB, he doesn't appear to be.
2. The Vikings are surely not the the same team with Jackson starting a quarterback. With Jackson starting I see a 9-7 record.
3. Packers secondary (healthy) is better than the Vikings secondary (healthy)...its the defensive front that makes the Vikings secondary look like they are better.
4. Vikings receivers are no where NEAR as good as the Packers receivers.

I do agree that...

1. Our offensive line can still be a concern due to Clifton and Tauscher not being reliable for a whole season.
2. Linebacker injuries should be a concern, but we do have depth at linebacker. People want to see Bishop and Chillar get more time anyways.
3. The loss of Jolly WILL hurt our defensive front.
4. Special teams really are not-so-special....

This article talked WAY TOO MUCH about the preseason game. Sad that they used the week 1 preseason to draw comparisons between the Packers and Vikings.

zombieslayer
Registered

14 years ago

#17

I put $50 on the Pack to win the superbowl about two weeks ago, and I'm still happy with that decision.

"ChilliMaddensChilli" wrote:

What are the Vegas odds now? I didn't make Vegas this year.

Last year we were 25-1 but this year, I'm assuming we won't be any better than 5-1.

My man Donald Driver

(thanks to Pack93z for the pic)
2010 will be seen as the beginning of the new Packers dynasty. 🇹🇹 🇲🇲 🇦🇷

Pack93z
Select Member

14 years ago

#18

8 to 1 this morning.

"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"

zombieslayer
Registered

14 years ago

#19

8 to 1 this morning.

"pack93z" wrote:

You're kidding. Makes me want to do a quick Vegas run.

My man Donald Driver

(thanks to Pack93z for the pic)
2010 will be seen as the beginning of the new Packers dynasty. 🇹🇹 🇲🇲 🇦🇷

gbguy20
Veteran Member

14 years ago

#20

"Wade" wrote:

I like to think it's strictly the defensive front seven. I have all the confidence in the world in our Oline, barring injuries. I'm beginning to be very concerned about our pass rush though.

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beast (10h) : Sounds like no serious injuries from the Saints game and Jacobs and Watson should play in the Vikings game

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buckeyepackfan (24-Dec) : Jacobs was just sat down, Watson re-injured that knee that kept him out 1 game earlier

buckeyepackfan (24-Dec) : I needed .14 that's. .14 points for the whole 4th quarter to win and go to the SB. Lol

Mucky Tundra (24-Dec) : Jacobs gonna be OK???

Zero2Cool (24-Dec) : Watson gonna be OK???

packerfanoutwest (24-Dec) : Inactives tonight for the Pack: Alexander- knee Bullard - ankle Williams - quad Walker -ankle Monk Heath

packerfanoutwest (24-Dec) : No Jaire, but hopefully the front 7 destroys the line of scrimmage & forces Rattler into a few passes to McKinney.

packerfanoutwest (24-Dec) : minny could be #1 seed and the Lions #5 seed

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : We'd have same Division and Conference records. Strength of schedule we edge them

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I just checked. What tie breaker?

bboystyle (23-Dec) : yes its possible but unlikely. If we do get the 5th, we face the NFCS winner

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : Ahh, ok.

bboystyle (23-Dec) : yes due to tie breaker

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I mean, unlikely, yes, but mathematically, 5th is possible by what I'm reading.

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : If Vikings lose out, Packers win out, Packers get 5th, right?

bboystyle (23-Dec) : Minny isnt going to lose out so 5th seed is out of the equation. We are playing for the 6th or 7th seed which makes no difference

Mucky Tundra (23-Dec) : beast, the ad revenue goes to the broadcast company but they gotta pay to air the game on their channel/network

beast (23-Dec) : If we win tonight the game is still relative in terms of 5th, 6th or 7th seed... win and it's 5th or 6th, lose and it's 6th or 7th

beast (23-Dec) : Mucky, I thought the ad revenue went to the broadcasting companies or the NFL, at least not directly

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I think the revenue share is moot, isn't it? That's the CBA an Salary Cap handling that.

bboystyle (23-Dec) : i mean game becomes irrelevant if we win tonight. Just a game where we are trying to play spoilers to Vikings chance at the #1 seed

Mucky Tundra (23-Dec) : beast, I would guess ad revenue from more eyes watching tv

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I would think it would hurt the home team because people would have to cancel last minute maybe? i dunno

beast (23-Dec) : I agree that it's BS for fans planning on going to the game. But how does it bring in more money? I'm guessing indirectly?

packerfanoutwest (23-Dec) : bs on flexing the game....they do it for the $$league$$, not the hometown fans

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I see what you did there Mucky

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : dammit. 3:25pm

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : Packers Vikings flexed to 3:35pm

Mucky Tundra (23-Dec) : Upon receiving the news about Luke Musgrave, I immediately fell to the ground

Mucky Tundra (23-Dec) : Yeah baby!

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : LUKE MUSGRAVE PLAYING TONIGHT~!~~~~WOWHOAAOHAOAA yah

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I wanna kill new QB's ... blitz the crap out of them.

beast (23-Dec) : Barry seemed to get too conservative against new QBs, Hafley doesn't have that issue

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : However, we seem to struggle vs new QB's

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : Should be moot point, cuz Packers should win tonight.

packerfanoutwest (23-Dec) : ok I stand corrected

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : Ok, yes, you are right. I see that now how they get 7th

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : 5th - Packers win out, Vikings lose out. Maybe?

beast (23-Dec) : Saying no to the 6th lock.

beast (23-Dec) : No, with the Commanders beating the Eagles, Packers could have a good chance of 6th or 7th unless the win out

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I think if Packers win, they are locked 6th with chance for 5th.

beast (23-Dec) : But it doesn't matter, as the Packers win surely win one of their remaining games

beast (23-Dec) : This is not complex, just someone doesn't want to believe reality

beast (23-Dec) : We already have told you... if Packers lose all their games (they won't, but if they did), and Buccaneers and Falcons win all theirs

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I posted it in that Packers and 1 seed thread

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I literally just said it.

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