Tezzy
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14 years ago
Original Article:
NFP - Training Camp Quick Hits 


*All offseason, the knock on the Bears was that they were going to be weak at the wide receiver position. They may be inexperienced but they do not lack talent. There is an abundance of speed in the group of Devin Hester, Johnny Knox and Devin Aromashodu. All ran the 40 in under 4.40 coming out of college. There is also size with Aromashodu and Earl Bennett. Throw Greg Olsen into the mix and the Bears receivers may equal Green Bays.

As good as those groups are, however, they may not be as strong as Minnesotas with Bernard Berrian, Sidney Rice and Percy Harvin. Of course, Brett Favre needs to play for that bunch to hit their ceiling.



I don't know, call me a homer, but the Bears WR corp equal to the Packers? That had me flabbergasted.
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voiceofreason
14 years ago
pre season propaganda. they dont have an Isaac Bruce, or even a Tory Holt. Nor is Forte or Taylor a Faulk. Vikings-esque paper champs.
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Mckennj3
14 years ago
There's no way i'd put either BB or DH over Jennings or Driver. Maybe their 3'rd possibly could have a slight edge over ours (not my feeling). We definitely have the better forth WR, plus you have to put Finley ahead of Olsen, and even if Favre returns i'd rather have Arod throwing. I can see how their not as bad as before but equal? Not a chance.
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Nonstopdrivel
14 years ago
Are we really all that worried? Cutler was 17-20 in Denver, even with receives like Brandon Marshall, and he's 7-9 in Chicago (24-29 for his career). His TD-INT ratio is 81-63, and his career rating is 83.3. Unless he dramatically turns things around, the Bears' receiving corps doesn't concern me too much.
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Tezzy
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14 years ago
Definetely not worried. I just have to wonder what these guys are drinking while they write their articles. This Gabriel guy actually sounds like an Al Davis disciple. Seemed his entire argument was based off the speed and size of the receivers, nothing about talent or history of performance.
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tonyagnese
14 years ago
Olsen is a solid TE but has a few issues with injuries and the fact he's got Mr. Inconsistent throwing to him. Finley will be top 3 TE this year. And he's got a great chance at being the best. The guy is making huge strides, and has the size, and talent to be able to do it.
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Packers_Finland
14 years ago

Olsen is a solid TE but has a few issues with injuries and the fact he's got Mr. Inconsistent throwing to him. Finley will be top 3 TE this year. And he's got a great chance at being the best. The guy is making huge strides, and has the size, and talent to be able to do it.

"tonyagnese" wrote:



Greg Olsen WOULD be scary, BUT... they have Mike Martz the QB Killer as their offensive coordinator. Mr. Martz does not believe in recieving TEs, his TEs are the 6th linemen. Brandon Manumaleuna will start. Greg Olsen will see backup roles.
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bigfog
14 years ago

Olsen is a solid TE but has a few issues with injuries and the fact he's got Mr. Inconsistent throwing to him. Finley will be top 3 TE this year. And he's got a great chance at being the best. The guy is making huge strides, and has the size, and talent to be able to do it.

"Packers_Finland" wrote:



Greg Olsen WOULD be scary, BUT... they have Mike Martz the QB Killer as their offensive coordinator. Mr. Martz does not believe in recieving TEs, his TEs are the 6th linemen. Brandon Manumaleuna will start. Greg Olsen will see backup roles.

"tonyagnese" wrote:



Which is too bad for Olsen, but good for us!
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PackerTraxx
14 years ago
Did they shore up their OL? I thought they had problems there. If they do, Cutler could be in for a long season, especially if they want a downfield passing game.
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Tezzy
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14 years ago

Did they shore up their OL? I thought they had problems there. If they do, Cutler could be in for a long season, especially if they want a downfield passing game.

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Orlando Pace has finally been put to pasture, so they moved Chris Williams from RT to LT which is where they wanted him. So far he has looked like a little kid comapred to Julius Peppers, but who doesn't. Plus they moved Garze from RG to LG. That left side of their line should be dramatically better. Olin Kreutz is still center. They got a rookie slated to start at RG and their RT was their RG from last year and is a T and never played G like he did last year. So I would say they are taking steps, and with Mike Tice there I think they could be a much improved squad. So far in the camp though Cutler has still been harrassed non-stop. Either that's the line still a work in progress, but also that their front 7 is much improved with Peppers and Urlacher being back. We'll have to wait and see.
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