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14 years ago

Mike Vandermause column: 18-game NFL season is good idea, if money talks
 

BY MIKE VANDERMAUSE JUNE 19, 2010

Charging full price for National Football League preseason tickets is the biggest rip-off in professional sports.

Finally, the NFL is attempting to do something about it.

Serving as a spokesman for the league, Green Bay Packers President Mark Murphy unveiled a plan last week in which the NFL would expand the regular season to 18 games and reduce the preseason to two games starting in 2012.

Its a terrific idea but must first meet with the approval of NFL players, who would be exposed to more injuries and potentially shorter careers under the expanded schedule.

Fans love the idea of adding two meaningful games to the schedule. Season ticket holders being forced to pay full price for preseason games borders on legalized theft, so the NFL deserves credit for acknowledging and attempting to rectify the problem.

Part of it is really providing more value to our fans, Murphy told the NFL Network. The quality of our preseason has really deteriorated over time.

In a follow-up interview with the Green Bay Press-Gazette, Murphy said the regular season would still begin after Labor Day, and the extra games would be added to the end of the schedule in January. That would push the Super Bowl back two weeks to the third Sunday in February.

That increases the number of late-season cold-weather games, but Murphy said starting the regular season in August during summer vacations wouldnt generate sufficient interest and Southern cities would have real heat issues.

Training camp would likely begin a week later and teams would receive a bye after the two-game preseason in addition to another bye during the regular season.

With the NFL and its players in negotiations over a new collective bargaining agreement, Murphy is hoping a plan to expand the regular season will bring the sides together.

This might be something that could help us move toward an agreement with the players, Murphy said. Its working together with the players to generate additional revenue.

That sounds good in theory, but the players havent exactly been doing cartwheels over the new plan.

I think the NFL season is long enough as it is, Arizona Cardinals receiver Larry Fitzgerald said in a Phoenix radio interview. It is a real grind. Its a brutal sport.

Baltimore Ravens linebacker Ray Lewis echoed those sentiments in a statement to the players association.

I know our fans may not like preseason games and I dont like all of them, but swapping two preseason games for two end-of-season games when players already play hurt comes at a huge cost for the player and the team, Lewis said.

While starters generally only play a total of between four and six quarters during four preseason games, Murphy said there are other factors that could win them over.

A shorter training camp means fewer two-a-day practices, for example. The NFL would also consider reducing the number of organized team activity practices during the offseason, expanding the roster and practice squads and forming a developmental league for young players.

From the players perspective, its a chance to grow revenue, create more jobs, and to further develop players, Murphy said.

Fitzgerald acknowledged that if players are paid for two extra games, they might be willing to play them.

Chicago Bears linebacker Lance Briggs is one of the few players so far to publicly favor the idea.

Ill take an 18-game schedule over four preseason games where we all get paid $1,100 a game, Briggs told the Chicago Tribune. Yes, absolutely, I think that players who are going out there are under-compensated for the work that we put out there on the field in the preseason.

As with everything else in pro sports, the success of this plan will come down to cold, hard cash. The NFL can achieve its goal of adding two regular-season games only if it entices players with enough extra money.



I don't like the idea of placing the first bye after the second preseason game. I say place the first bye after the first quarter of the season, with the second by coming at the three-quarter point (so roughly after weeks 4-5 and 12-13). Half the league could take a bye one week, with the other half taking their bye the next; or better yet, have the entire league take their bye the same week. Scattering byes between weeks 4 and 13 is absurd, in my opinion. It gives some teams an unfair advantage over the others.
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Zero2Cool
14 years ago
I don't like the scattering of BYE weeks either. I think that's something Baseball has right. I believe they have a break in the middle of the season. I like that.
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wpr
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14 years ago
And I like the idea that the games I pay for actually mean something.
I hate paying full price and getting Div II level play. Ok Div I AA level of talent.
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PackFanWithTwins
14 years ago
I am not against having more games actually have meaning. Just a couple things.

1. More games raises the chance that the end of the season games will mean squat. More players sitting which = boring.

2. Only adding 2 games, how does this get scheduled that is fair and unbiased like the current schedule. It is set years in advance with the exception of those games that depend on finishing position. I don't see an easy solution to keep that fair.
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Nonstopdrivel
14 years ago
There are many possible objections to a longer season (not the last of which that accomplishments like 5,000-yard passing seasons will become virtually commonplace), but my main objection is that the longer season will relegate divisional games to even further irrelevance. Divisional games will now comprise a mere third of the season. Is there any other sport in which such a low proportion of games is played against divisional rivals? With divisional games comprising such a small fraction of the schedule, it would make sense to abandon the current playoff seeding system and simply seed the playoffs by season record. There's no further compelling reason why a team with a better record (the Packers) should be visiting a team with a worse record (the Cardinals) in the first round of the playoffs. Division titles will become essentially meaningless under the 18-game season anyway.
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RaiderPride
14 years ago
Ask your self these simple questions.

Do you as a fan get more excited for a regular season game than a pre season game?

Are you more fired up all week, reading, anticipating, and diagnosing the up coming opponent in a regular season game than a pre season game?

Are you more likely to invite friends/family over for a Sunday get together for a regular season game than a pre Season game?

For me, personally.... A pre season game is a once a week bliss.

A regular season game is a 7 day Ecstasy.

I will take two more regular season games in a freaking heart beat.
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Nonstopdrivel
14 years ago
More isn't always better. You eventually hit a dilution point.
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Zero2Cool
14 years ago
18 games? Since the NFL thinks they HAVE to have a game every week, have the BYE weeks spread over two weeks. Week 9 and 10. AFC one week, NFC the other or something. Or maybe a couple weeks later to help with those teams in the playoffs.

Someone else made a good point, with more games, that means more players will be sitting a game or two earlier after their team has things wrapped up.

16 I think is good. I don't care for 4 preseason games, but oh well.
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flep
14 years ago
2 more meaningful games???

Bring it on!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

yes records will be broken.

The only true way to make the record meaningful would be to out all records into perspective.

Divide the yards by the games played that season (Team not player) and you have a true rtecord holder after that.

But I digress.

18 meaningful games = Football Heaven and the season lasting September to January and playoffs all February.

Less off season.

And for me as a Brit more chance of the NFL increasing overseas games (with a 9 game home schedule losing 1 out of 9 is nowhere near as bad as 1 out of 8 ) so I may get to see the Pack play sooner rather than later. Though saying that I would never want the Pack to have to play a home game here.

I'm just being football greedy.
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I feel very wrong now!!!!!!!!!
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14 years ago
Re: the "divisional games" don't matter as much argument...
....could they not just re-align and have 5-6 team divisions again?
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