zombieslayer
14 years ago
I'm more under the impression that they're vampires. Lifeless, soulless creatures only interested in preying our blood (or hard-earned tax money).
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Zero2Cool
14 years ago
Think McShay will take him up on the offer? I would if I was him. How can you pass up a chance like that? Watch film with a professional athlete, a Green Bay Packer to boot?
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Pack93z
14 years ago

Think McShay will take him up on the offer? I would if I was him. How can you pass up a chance like that? Watch film with a professional athlete, a Green Bay Packer to boot?

"Zero2Cool" wrote:



Why would he.. what possibly could one gain from it other than knowledge itself.

And if McShay acknowledges he learned a great deal.. it will only discount his credibility on past statements and tarnish his work to that date.

You know Aaron would expose anything he didn't know.. or why else the challenge?
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Zero2Cool
14 years ago

Think McShay will take him up on the offer? I would if I was him. How can you pass up a chance like that? Watch film with a professional athlete, a Green Bay Packer to boot?

"pack93z" wrote:



Why would he.. what possibly could one gain from it other than knowledge itself.

And if McShay acknowledges he learned a great deal.. it will only discount his credibility on past statements and tarnish his work to that date.

You know Aaron would expose anything he didn't know.. or why else the challenge?

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Why wouldn't he? It's a helluva a opportunity. He can learn something that would make him a BETTER analyst. Why would you freaking pass up on getting BETTER at your job?!?!
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Pack93z
14 years ago

Think McShay will take him up on the offer? I would if I was him. How can you pass up a chance like that? Watch film with a professional athlete, a Green Bay Packer to boot?

"Zero2Cool" wrote:



Why would he.. what possibly could one gain from it other than knowledge itself.

And if McShay acknowledges he learned a great deal.. it will only discount his credibility on past statements and tarnish his work to that date.

You know Aaron would expose anything he didn't know.. or why else the challenge?

"pack93z" wrote:



Why wouldn't he? It's a helluva a opportunity. He can learn something that would make him a BETTER analyst. Why would you freaking pass up on getting BETTER at your job?!?!

"Zero2Cool" wrote:



Because he a puppet head that would have to admit that he didn't know the principles and that he may have incorrectly rated a player in the past.

Would I do it.. hell yes.. in a freaking heartbeat.. but I would jump at the opportunity from even someone as an assistant coach...

I think, for someone like McShay, that has little to no credentials to effectively hold the job he currently does.. it would be a career risk to walk into a session like that and be exposed for what he doesn't know but should when projecting talent from college to the pros.
"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
Zero2Cool
14 years ago
If he's exposed for what he doesn't know, that means he's just learned something and would have the benefit of learning how to watch film ... like a professional athlete.

I just don't see how this is negative. This is a great opportunity, not negative. Aaron is not the type who's going to say 'haha i had dude in the film room and ... bro guess what ... he knows SQUAT!!' ... Aaron just isn't that kind of guy. At worst I bet he'd say "it was a great experience and they both learned a little from one another," then he'd smile an say "of course he learned a lot more from me. ;)"
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Pack93z
14 years ago

If he's exposed for what he doesn't know, that means he's just learned something and would have the benefit of learning how to watch film ... like a professional athlete.

I just don't see how this is negative. This is a great opportunity, not negative. Aaron is not the type who's going to say 'haha i had dude in the film room and ... bro guess what ... he knows SQUAT!!' ... Aaron just isn't that kind of guy. At worst I bet he'd say "it was a great experience and they both learned a little from one another," then he'd smile an say "of course he learned a lot more from me. ;)"

"Zero2Cool" wrote:



Do you really believe Aaron would be the only one present?

Second.. why offer the challenge if it is not to make a point?

I don't think it is a negative overall.. I think it would benefit McShay personally.. but it is also a risk to his current gig if he flops like a 3 day old tuna out of water...

McShay, Kiper.. men of their ilk have it made.. why would they step into a room that has any risk of them being exposed for lacking knowledge?

They are like teflon right now.. nothing sticks to them.. no matter how far off their analysis is.. they get in front of the viewing public.. give an opinion and throw some of the hot terms around.. and repeat it year after year.. some gig.

Just my opinion.
"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
IronMan
14 years ago
Do you guys really expect guys like Todd/Mel to correctly predict how every single NFL draftee is going to pan out?
Pack93z
14 years ago

Do you guys really expect someone like Todd/Mel to correctly predict how every single NFL draftee is going to pan out?

"IronMan" wrote:



Nope.. Actually I expect very little out of them.. they are a glorified fan whom has been elevated to sell a product.. coverage of the NFL draft.

I don't expect my GM and scouts to hit every time either.. but I have more confidence in their evaluation matching up with my teams scheme and needs than some window dressing that never has been a pro scout or established some credibility in there work.

McShay to me... comes off as very phony and lacking.. looking at his background that is amplified.

But he comes off like his word is the gospel.

Can you tell I don't care for him or Kiper.. lol.
"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
IronMan
14 years ago

Do you guys really expect someone like Todd/Mel to correctly predict how every single NFL draftee is going to pan out?

"pack93z" wrote:



Nope..

"IronMan" wrote:

Then I don't see what the issue is. He didn't think Rodgers would be a good qb. He was wrong. Big deal. Lets move on.
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packerfanoutwest (1h) : No Jaire, but hopefully the front 7 destroys the line of scrimmage & forces Rattler into a few passes to McKinney.
packerfanoutwest (2h) : minny could be #1 seed and the Lions #5 seed
Zero2Cool (4h) : We'd have same Division and Conference records. Strength of schedule we edge them
Zero2Cool (4h) : I just checked. What tie breaker?
bboystyle (4h) : yes its possible but unlikely. If we do get the 5th, we face the NFCS winner
Zero2Cool (4h) : Ahh, ok.
bboystyle (4h) : yes due to tie breaker
Zero2Cool (4h) : I mean, unlikely, yes, but mathematically, 5th is possible by what I'm reading.
Zero2Cool (4h) : If Vikings lose out, Packers win out, Packers get 5th, right?
bboystyle (4h) : Minny isnt going to lose out so 5th seed is out of the equation. We are playing for the 6th or 7th seed which makes no difference
Mucky Tundra (5h) : beast, the ad revenue goes to the broadcast company but they gotta pay to air the game on their channel/network
beast (6h) : If we win tonight the game is still relative in terms of 5th, 6th or 7th seed... win and it's 5th or 6th, lose and it's 6th or 7th
beast (6h) : Mucky, I thought the ad revenue went to the broadcasting companies or the NFL, at least not directly
Zero2Cool (6h) : I think the revenue share is moot, isn't it? That's the CBA an Salary Cap handling that.
bboystyle (6h) : i mean game becomes irrelevant if we win tonight. Just a game where we are trying to play spoilers to Vikings chance at the #1 seed
Mucky Tundra (6h) : beast, I would guess ad revenue from more eyes watching tv
Zero2Cool (7h) : I would think it would hurt the home team because people would have to cancel last minute maybe? i dunno
beast (7h) : I agree that it's BS for fans planning on going to the game. But how does it bring in more money? I'm guessing indirectly?
packerfanoutwest (7h) : bs on flexing the game....they do it for the $$league$$, not the hometown fans
Zero2Cool (8h) : I see what you did there Mucky
Zero2Cool (8h) : dammit. 3:25pm
Zero2Cool (8h) : Packers Vikings flexed to 3:35pm
Mucky Tundra (8h) : Upon receiving the news about Luke Musgrave, I immediately fell to the ground
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Zero2Cool (8h) : LUKE MUSGRAVE PLAYING TONIGHT~!~~~~WOWHOAAOHAOAA yah
Zero2Cool (9h) : I wanna kill new QB's ... blitz the crap out of them.
beast (9h) : Barry seemed to get too conservative against new QBs, Hafley doesn't have that issue
Zero2Cool (10h) : However, we seem to struggle vs new QB's
Zero2Cool (10h) : Should be moot point, cuz Packers should win tonight.
packerfanoutwest (10h) : ok I stand corrected
Zero2Cool (10h) : Ok, yes, you are right. I see that now how they get 7th
Zero2Cool (11h) : 5th - Packers win out, Vikings lose out. Maybe?
beast (11h) : Saying no to the 6th lock.
beast (11h) : No, with the Commanders beating the Eagles, Packers could have a good chance of 6th or 7th unless the win out
Zero2Cool (11h) : I think if Packers win, they are locked 6th with chance for 5th.
beast (11h) : But it doesn't matter, as the Packers win surely win one of their remaining games
beast (11h) : This is not complex, just someone doesn't want to believe reality
beast (11h) : We already have told you... if Packers lose all their games (they won't, but if they did), and Buccaneers and Falcons win all theirs
Zero2Cool (11h) : I posted it in that Packers and 1 seed thread
Zero2Cool (11h) : I literally just said it.
packerfanoutwest (11h) : show us a scenario where Pack don't get in? bet you can't
Zero2Cool (11h) : Falcons, Buccaneers would need to win final two games.
Zero2Cool (11h) : Yes, if they win one of three, they are lock. If they lose out, they can be eliminated.
packerfanoutwest (11h) : as I just said,,gtheyh are in no matter what
Zero2Cool (11h) : Packers should get in. I just hope it's not 7th seed. Feels dirty.
packerfanoutwest (11h) : If packers lose out, no matter what, they are in
packerfanoutwest (11h) : both teams can not male the playoffs....falcon hold the tie breaker
packerfanoutwest (11h) : if bucs win out they win their division
beast (11h) : Fine, Buccaneers and Falcons can get ahead of us
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