If the Dolphins had completely removed this guy from their board--per my recommendation, they would have had no need to even talk to him.

Dad is a pimp, mom is a twice-convicted crack dealer, and people are wringing their hands over this question? I'm sure this has greatly upset the sensibilities of all involved.

child, please.


If she wasn't flat-backing for dad, what WAS she doing? I'd like to hear that answer.

A) "Slappin' the ho's" for non-payment on the tricks?

B) Keeping the ho's supplied with crack at "company store" prices?

C) For you PC / liberal / hand-wringers-- Ensuring the young ladies of the evening spiritual needs were being satisfied in the midst of the hardships endured by life's circumstances due to the failure of those in authority to adequately assist the downtrodden...

"dfosterf" wrote:

That absolutely has everything to do with Dez.. and is not not disrespectful to him or his family.

I think it is pretty freaking simple.. judge someone on their merits.. their actions and what they may or may not do going forward. Things they control.

When building a friendship/relationship with someone.. you base your opinion upon that person for what they do, their actions and choices.. not that of their father or mother.

Now.. if Dez was pimping out his mother.. have at him. But the simple fact that her choices have very little to do with Dez himself, it is not like a 10 year old Dez could stop his mother or father from doing what they choose to do.

Ireland is a fully educated NFL executive.. one that should be able to understand where the lines of respect reside.. and if he can't, then he shouldn't be representing the NFL nor the Dolphins.

Is questioning is more in line with an interrogation [strike]and[/strike] than a job interview... personally I think it is becoming an ego trip from some of these fucks.. seriously.. questions like briefs or a thong? Is your momma a Ho?

Come on.. those questions serve little purpose in evaluating a prospect.. other than to flex the muscle of the person asking it.

"dfosterf" wrote:

Seriously?

Ireland asks the kid what his dad does for a living. The kid says his dad is a pimp. (allegedly)

Ireland asks what his mom does.

The kid says his mom works for his dad.

Now, you can SAY it's wrong to ask the next question, but it sure as hell is logical (the next question) -- and you can assign whatever motives you want to Ireland having asked it--and he did apologize--

I would have asked him the same damn thing. I might have said hooker, instead of prostitute, but I would have asked, and him having done so is no high crime in my book.

(Unlike crack dealing, but why go there)

The thing that has me pissed is the crack-dealing mom saying that she deserves an apology.

No-- She deserves to be in prison, that's what she deserves.

"dfosterf" wrote:

So... we are willing to believe a anonymous leak in which the PR head of the Dolphins claims is not their position or understanding of the events.

Yes, over a known liar such as Dez Bryant--Remember the 10 game suspension for lying to the NCAA about his contact with Deion?

That is along the same lines of Ben's bodyguard having no idea what was happening behind him.. lol.

Ireland manned up and apologized.. Dez accepted it. End of story.

I don't think Dez's mom is entitled to an apology.. her son accepted it already.

My only ax to grind now is the NFL addressing Ireland and that they step in an clean up some of the BS questions that are posed to these kids.

It was NOT a BS question--- This kid (allegedly) has a pimp dad and a (proven) crack-dealing mom. He takes plays off. 1/3 of the personnelmen said they would not even CONSIDER drafting him because of character concerns (JSOnline article April 15/16th) They said he would be tough to sign. They said he has a bad attitude.

He shows up at the combine with a friggin' posse' =====

And "forgets his cleats"....

KNOWING THAT THESE ARE CONCERNS

Ireland is no different than a player... his actions should require some statement from the NFL in the very least... not hiding behind the Fins one line statement. The line in the sand should be drawn for the questioning and an understanding with Ireland should be publicly placed.. this is your one and only warning.

But as time progresses.. it is clear that these NFL execs get off on some of these BS questions.. borderline offensive at times. It is not boot camp where they need to be broken down and rebuilt.. they are prospective employees that deserve at least common respect in questions posed to them.

"dfosterf" wrote:

Seriously?

Ireland asks the kid what his dad does for a living. The kid says his dad is a pimp. (allegedly)

Ireland asks what his mom does.

The kid says his mom works for his dad.

Now, you can SAY it's wrong to ask the next question, but it sure as hell is logical (the next question) -- and you can assign whatever motives you want to Ireland having asked it--and he did apologize--

I would have asked him the same damn thing. I might have said hooker, instead of prostitute, but I would have asked, and him having done so is no high crime in my book.

(Unlike crack dealing, but why go there)

The thing that has me pissed is the crack-dealing mom saying that she deserves an apology.

No-- She deserves to be in prison, that's what she deserves.

"dfosterf" wrote:

You failed to mention that Ireland set world land speed records in tracking down Dez and offering an apology when it became public record.





I am assuming very little actually.. numerous kids mention the strange or creepy questions posed to them during the combine interviews.

Most of mention would have little bearing on their worthiness going forward... Briefs or thongs? Seriously argue a single merit for that question.. lol.

Back to Dez.. I am fine with having issues and wanting to clear things up.. no problem. But do it with at least a bit of tact.. you know because the kid is human and well still a kid on most accounts. You assume that the NCAA didn't make an error as well in their suspension or fact finding.. many have posed questions about it.. and the NCAA has offered little in terms of proof.


[quote="dfosterf"]
The fact that his mom was a convicted felon was already public knowledge when those interviews occurred, so I don't see the big deal of having posed the question that she might also be a prostitute, but I could be wrong, in that I don't know if the hookers don't like being called crack-dealers or the crack dealers don't like being called hookers...Unclear on the miss manners protocols, there.

Well, I gotta laugh at that.

"dfosterf" wrote:

It seems like it has, to me, and if I was charged with the responsibility to my organization to ensure I wasn't getting a worthless piece of shit fuckhead, I'd lean towards being a humongous prick as contrasted to concerning myself with either upsetting the prospect or moralistic fans if it ever got out what I said, but that's just me.

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