Rockmolder
15 years ago
What a good trade for both sides, btw. The 43th pick this year and a 2nd next year doesn't sound like too much to give up for an elite WR. Especially when your team has nothing at the position. This will help Henne's progress immensely.

The Broncos, on the other hand, pretty much got everything out of this that they could. Receivers don't give you that much trade value. We traded Javon away for "just" a 2nd, after he looked like he could be the next great receiver in 2004. Although he did get injured before the trade.
dfosterf
15 years ago
Fish.

Good.

I hope the Dolphins draft Dez also, though now more likely to Denver--which is going to be humorous in the "out of the frying pan and into the fire" department, or possibly he makes it to the Steelers pick...

All good, just as long as none of these divas don the green and gold, or wind up on the Vikes, Bares or Lions.

A good trade for this fan this AM.
Pack93z
15 years ago
10 teams took Dez off their board according to reports.. Dez to the Packers picking up steam. ;)

Oh... Marshall to the Fins.. can't wait for the first Tuna vs Brandon scuffle to erupt in camp.... lol... I would pay a small fee to see it.
"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
dfosterf
15 years ago
The only question left is which club in Miami Beach will Brandon Marshall be arrested in.

Book it.
Nonstopdrivel
15 years ago
In some ways the Packers are a victim of their own success: their picks are too low to be attractive without giving up an inordinate amount of them.
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Dulak
15 years ago
What the pack going to do with Dez? ... ya hes a good WR but seriously what we going to do with him?

jennings/driver/jones/nelson and now finley often have as much if not more yards then driver or jennings - so we could count him as a WR.

means jones or nelson will get the shaft and I like both of them (ie jones more) but they both are good.

IMO dez wont help us win but someone else might ie a OT or lupatapi (spelling) or a LOLB
Pack93z
15 years ago

What the pack going to do with Dez? ... ya hes a good WR but seriously what we going to do with him?

"Dulak" wrote:



Not really... it just works up our resident Jarhead.. kind of fun to poke him with the receiver stick.. stand back and watch him set it ablaze. lol.
"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
Nonstopdrivel
15 years ago
The numbers on this deal are nothing short of eye popping:

Updated: April 14, 2010, 2:32 PM ET
Marshall traded, agrees to $47.5M deal
 

By Adam Schefter
ESPN

Marshall Agrees To Extension With Dolphins

The Denver Broncos have traded wide receiver Brandon Marshall to the Miami Dolphins for second-round draft picks in 2010 and 2011, the Broncos announced Wednesday.

Marshall and the Dolphins subsequently agreed on a four-year, $47.5 million contract extension that includes $24 million in guaranteed money, according to a league source. The deal includes close to $29 million in the first three years of the contract and makes Marshall the highest-paid receiver in NFL history. Arizona's Larry Fitzgerald previously had the richest deal of any receiver, averaging $10 million per season.

The trade is contingent upon the league processing the paperwork and Marshall passing his physical.

In acquiring Marshall, the Dolphins gained a deep threat at receiver to loosen up defenses for their potentially potent ground game and young, strong-armed quarterback Chad Henne. In return, the Broncos get two high draft picks for a player who caused them headaches in addition to making plays.

Marshall Trade: Oceans of Change

Last summer, Marshall was suspended by the team for throwing a tantrum at practice during training camp. The source of his frustration was twofold: he was upset with the team's medical staff for misdiagnosing a hip injury that required offseason surgery and he was displeased with his contract.

Despite those difficulties, Marshall caught 101 passes for 1,120 yards and 10 touchdowns last season, including an NFL-record 21 in a loss at Indianapolis. He has 327 career receptions for 4,019 yards and 25 touchdowns in four seasons, all in Denver, which drafted him out of Central Florida with a fourth-round pick in 2006.

Broncos coach Josh McDaniels told ESPN's Ed Werder that in a post-trade phone call with Marshall, he told the receiver that he enjoyed their time together, predicted success for him with the Dolphins and expressed regret that their own partnership could not be successful in the long term.

Marshall's departure leaves the Broncos with Jabar Gaffney, who had 54 catches for 732 yards and two TDs last season, as their top receiver. Eddie Royal caught 37 passes with no TDs and Brandon Stokley had 19 catches, four for TDs.

In a little more than a year, with a pair of blockbuster trades, Denver has recouped two first-round picks, two second-round picks, a third-round pick and quarterback Kyle Orton in exchange for Jay Cutler and Marshall.

McDaniels told Werder the decisions to trade Cutler and Marshall were motivated by his belief that the moves were essential to build a successful team. He also said he is convinced that the Broncos achieved the best possible result in trading Marshall for a pair of second-round draft picks, while remaining mindful of Marshall's interests.

Nice Catch For Miami?

Fifteen wide receivers have caught passes for the Dolphins the past three seasons. In that span, Brandon Marshall has more touchdowns and 100-yard games than all of them combined.

                Marshall     Miami
Receptions      307          521
Rec. yards      3,710        6,257
Rec. TDs        23           18
100-yard games	10           9

The trade also shakes up things in the AFC East, as Miami has arguably topped the deal the New York Jets made earlier this week, when they traded a fifth-round draft pick for talented but troubled Steelers receiver Santonio Holmes.

Miami is a surprise destination for Marshall because Dolphins coach Tony Sparano hadn't shown much interest in acquiring him. But football czar Bill Parcells, who has final say on personnel matters in Miami, has never shied away from talented-but-troubled wide receivers, working with Terry Glenn in New England, Keyshawn Johnson in New York and Terrell Owens in Dallas.

The Dolphins' passing game can use the help.

Speedy Ted Ginn Jr. has been a disappointment since Miami took him with the ninth overall draft pick in 2007. Ginn and the other wideouts -- Brian Hartline, Davone Bess and Greg Camarillo -- combined for only six touchdown catches last season.

The acquisition of a top-line receiver frees up the Dolphins to use the No. 12 pick in the draft next week on the defensive front seven, where help is also needed.

The trade, a complex negotiation involving as many as four teams, began shortly after Marshall failed to secure a contract offer as a restricted free agent and signed his one-year tender with the Broncos on Tuesday morning. A source with direct involvement in the talks told Werder that McDaniels and general manager Brian Xanders negotiated with Parcells and Dolphins general manager Jeff Ireland into the early-morning hours Wednesday before reaching an agreement.

Miami was hot after Marshall, as was Seattle. Tampa Bay showed some interest, and even the Jets considered making a play for Marshall before making their deal for Holmes, according to sources.

Marshall, 26, is one of the game's best young wide receivers, a mercurial talent in the prime of his career at the position where the Dolphins needed help most. But like Holmes, he also brings a reputation of being difficult to handle and a record that has him one strike from a yearlong suspension.

Marshall has had several run-ins with the law and visits to commissioner Roger Goodell's office to discuss his off-the-field behavior. He was suspended for the 2008 opener following a series of domestic disputes involving a former girlfriend.

In February, an emotional Marshall was a witness in the murder trial of Willie Clark, who was convicted in the 2007 drive-by slaying of Broncos cornerback Darrent Williams.

Adam Schefter is ESPN's NFL Insider. Information from ESPN NFL analyst Chris Mortensen, ESPN NFL reporter Ed Werder and The Associated Press was used in this report.


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Pack93z
15 years ago
Any questions why the Packers weren't a player in that deal... no sense in throwing that kind of money at a headache in waiting that Marshall has proven to be.

Talented.. but seems to find trouble with ease.
"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
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15 years ago

Any questions why the Packers weren't a player in that deal... no sense in throwing that kind of money at a headache in waiting that Marshall has proven to be.

Talented.. but seems to find trouble with ease.

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Yeah, but wouldn't it have been fun to watch the Vikings and Bears scramble for Dbacks, like we had to in the late 90's?
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