Zero2Cool
14 years ago
Web Page Name 


[img_r]http://i.packers.com/images/action/100324finley215.jpg[/img_r]Head Coach Mike McCarthy often talks about how the biggest jump players take in their development comes from their first season to their second season, and tight end Jermichael Finley was a prime example of that in 2009.

With 55 receptions for 676 yards (12.3 avg.) in his second season, Finley fell just one catch shy of Paul Coffman's (1979) franchise record for most catches by a tight end despite missing three games and most of a fourth due to a knee injury sustained at Cleveland in Week 7. He posted eight 50-yard receiving games, a team record for tight ends.

That followed a rookie campaign in '08 that saw Finley catch just six passes for 74 yards (12.3 avg.) and a touchdown in 14 games played. He did come on strong late in the year, hauling in three passes for 64 yards (21.3 avg.) and a score in the final two contests.

After returning from the knee injury in Week 11, Finley ranked third in the league among tight ends with 37 catches over that span, trailing only Dallas' Jason Witten (45) and Atlanta's Tony Gonzalez (39).

That production in his sophomore campaign came with the soon-to-be 23-year-old Finley sharing snaps with veteran Donald Lee, so McCarthy is looking for even more from Finley this season.

"He is one of those classic talented players, perimeter players, that came in and exploded on the scene as a situational player, and that happens," McCarthy said. "Now his next big step that he has to overcome is can he be an every-down player? Can he be a starter and play 55-60 plays as opposed to playing 40? That's his next step.

"If he can do that at the level that he played at as a situational player, I think we've got a chance, we may have an All-Pro tight end."

But as with any young player, how Finley handles the success he had last season will factor into his ability to build on that moving forward.

"Jermichael in particular loves football," McCarthy said. "He loves the working out, the drill work, the one-on-one coaching. He has a very close relationship with (tight ends coach) Ben McAdoo. You can't get enough of him. He is at work and he's got a big smile on his face.

"It's like a lot of guys, you kind of worry about them once they leave the building. It's just all part of growing up and handling success. I think success is the biggest challenge that players have to handle in the National Football League. That's something that we talk about a lot."

Injury updates
McCarthy said veteran cornerback Al Harris, who sustained a season-ending ACL injury in Week 11 last season, is rehabilitating his knee down in Florida and making progress.

"He'll be coming up; I don't have the exact date as far as checking in with (Dr.) Pat (McKenzie)," McCarthy said. "I talked to Al probably seven, eight, nine days ago. It's a significant injury. He's in a very positive mindset right now, which is good to see. He struggled there. That was a serious injury and his first couple of weeks were tough. He had to go in and get the adjustment. Pat had to take him in twice and try to get the full range of motion in his knee.

"He's doing movement drills. He feels like he is really making progress and we'll just continue to watch that and see how he responds."

Even though Harris suffered the injury in the latter part of the season, McCarthy wouldn't rule him out for the beginning of the 2010 campaign.

"I wouldn't bet against Al," McCarthy said. "It's like anything, you can't ever just put a timetable on a knee injury because they are all a little different. His was significant, just using Pat McKenzie's words."

McCarthy said defensive end Justin Harrell, who spent all of last season on injured reserve due to a back injury after being limited to just six games in '08 with a similar injury, is doing well in the team's offseason program.

"I don't think you can really evaluate him until he gets out there and puts the pads on and torques," McCarthy said. "The d-line is different, but he looks really good. I know (defensive line coach) Mike Trgovac really liked what he saw last year in the spring.

"I know (strength coaches) Dave Redding and Mark Lovat feel good about where he is at in the weight room compared to where he was this time last year, clearly. So he has made progress, but until he gets in there and you see him torque and play with leverage, that's when the lower back will be tested."

McCarthy said he has spoken to tight end Spencer Havner, who sustained injuries in a motorcycle accident in California earlier this month.

"Really, I was checking on him physically at that time," McCarthy said. "That's really all I have to report. We're watching it, his situation. I think Spencer is a quality person. I think he's a good kid. I just think he made a bad mistake.

"Without our doctors laying their hands on him, I would just guess based on my conversation with him, (he'll be out) four-to-six weeks."

Schedule change
Green Bay's mandatory mini-camp, scheduled for June 21-23, will feature a different format than past years under McCarthy.

In previous seasons, the team practiced twice a day the first two days of mini-camp before wrapping up with one session on the final day. This year, the Packers will use the once-a-day format throughout the three-day camp.

"That is one of the times last year where I felt like we were falling into the category of we were probably doing a little too much," McCarthy said. "I know the whole time I have been in the league, you always traditionally went two-a-days during mini-camp. I just feel that the work we are getting done in May and June that our mini-camp will be very similar to our OTAs.

"I want to use the mini-camp frankly just to, if there is anything that we feel we need to go back and do that we didn't get done in the OTAs, that's what the mini-camp is going to be for."

One aspect of the schedule McCarthy wouldn't mind seeing repeat last year's format is the preseason slate, when the Packers' first two games both fell on a Saturday.

"I'm just hopeful that the first two weeks are Saturday and Saturday because that is so helpful," McCarthy said. "It's not the end of the world, but it really helps you in training camp if you can keep that Family Night (scrimmage) and those first two games (all on Saturdays), because the quality of work and the rest and recovery built in there, it really helps you."

More change on the way?
During his press conference Wednesday to close the league meetings, NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell said the NFL is still exploring ways to discourage playoff teams from resting their starters at the end of the regular season.

"One of the key things we are doing in the short term is in our scheduling," Goodell said. "We are trying to schedule it so that potentially Week 17 will be all division opponents and maybe even a large part of Week 16 games.

"We think that will address this to some extent. It will not necessarily eliminate the issue but the Competition Committee knows, and I've stressed to them, that we need to continue to look at this because it's important for the quality of what we do and for the integrity of our game."

The full NFL schedule is expected to be announced in mid-April.

Goodell also said that he thinks the overtime rule change approved on Tuesday will be expanded to cover regular-season games as well.

"I think what we'd like to do is continue to analyze it and go back and talk to our players about it also and we'll discuss it again," Goodell said. "There is the potential it will come up. There was a strong consensus for expanding it into the regular season."

Draft order set
With 32 compensatory picks awarded by the league on Monday, the NFL announced the complete draft order for the 2010 NFL Draft on Wednesday.

The Packers will have eight picks in the draft, including the No. 23 choice overall. Green Bay will have one selection in every round except for the fifth, where they have two picks because of a compensatory choice (No. 169) awarded on Monday.

The draft is moving to a three-day format this year, with the first round starting on Thursday, April 22, at 6:30 p.m. CT. The second and third rounds will be held on Friday, April 23, at 5:00 p.m., with rounds 4-7 on Saturday, April 24, at 9:00 a.m.


UserPostedImage
AJistheHawk50
14 years ago
He will be the best tight end in Green Bay Packer history.
blank
RajiRoar
14 years ago
call me crazy, but i think he can be a Tony Golzalez-type reciever.

he has that potential!

MintBaconDrivel
Dec, 11, 2012 - FOREVER!
14 years ago
The Packers have really hit a home run by picking Jermichael Finley, barring serious injuries, I think he can become a perennial pro bowl Tight End. Hopefully we can sign him to a long term deal if his play continues to excel.

Just thinking though,

Will the likes of Finley and Vernon Davis be a catalyst in a change of prototype for a corner/safety? It almost isn't fair when you see these type of players lined up against 5'11 corners. Time and time again Aaron Rodgers put the ball up there and it was just snagged out of the air, leaving the Corner without a prayer. Rodgers didn't even have to be especially accurate on those Goal Line Finley plays, just put it higher than the corner can jump.

Will we be seeing taller corners? Will a specialist situational position become the norm in the NFL - a tall, fast specialist cornerback designed to deal with tight ends?
UserPostedImage 
Zero2Cool is my captain.
Dulak
14 years ago

The Packers have really hit a home run by picking Jermichael Finley, barring serious injuries, I think he can become a perennial pro bowl Tight End. Hopefully we can sign him to a long term deal if his play continues to excel.

Just thinking though,

Will the likes of Finley and Vernon Davis be a catalyst in a change of prototype for a corner/safety? It almost isn't fair when you see these type of players lined up against 5'11 corners. Time and time again Aaron Rodgers put the ball up there and it was just snagged out of the air, leaving the Corner without a prayer. Rodgers didn't even have to be especially accurate on those Goal Line Finley plays, just put it higher than the corner can jump.

Will we be seeing taller corners? Will a specialist situational position become the norm in the NFL - a tall, fast specialist cornerback designed to deal with tight ends?

"VinceLambeauStarr" wrote:



am sort of wondering that myself ... I recently watched some of our later season games and watching finley just go up for the ball and pluck it out of the air while the denfender was grabbing at finleys elbows. Finley comes down with the ball and just looks at the cover with the look on his face like 'so what you going to do about that!'

- something to note - I did see how woodson was able to cover some good TEs thou. I know he was on witten part of the time in the dallas game and ya witten didnt do jack that game.

little note on finley - I wasnt sold on finley last year; and as a matter of fact I wasnt buying most of what peeps and Mike McCarthy was talking about how he would be a good player. I saw dropped balls/blame put on others and not himself and just a poor attitude ...

glad I was proven wrong - this year we had a guy that hardly ever dropped balls and somehow developed some real chemistry with rodgers. And went out there and took it to the cover.

And ya Finley had to share the time with Lee whom was our starter for most of the year. And ya I like finley alot more now then Lee ...
British
14 years ago
The new breed of TE is certainly going to pose some problems for DCs around the league. I'm just gald we have one of the best.

I can see a new 'TE killer' being developed, to try and deal with them. We currently use Chillar in that role or Woodson if they are the oppositions best receiver.

To be honest , with our protection breakdowns I wouldn't be upset if we got ourselves a solid blocker to reinforce our OLine as well.

That new TE the Bears signed seems to be like a third OT.
UserPostedImage
zombieslayer
14 years ago

"It's like a lot of guys, you kind of worry about them once they leave the building. It's just all part of growing up and handling success. I think success is the biggest challenge that players have to handle in the National Football League. That's something that we talk about a lot."



When I read this, I was thinking "uh oh." Does Finley have a partying problem that is a serious matter? Is he screwing around with the wrong women? Or is he being a guy in his young 20s who gets a bigger wad of cash than he has ever seen and blows it all and is an injury away from bankruptcy?

Why did Mike McCarthy bring this up?
My man Donald Driver
UserPostedImage
(thanks to Pack93z for the pic)
2010 will be seen as the beginning of the new Packers dynasty. 🇹🇹 🇲🇲 🇦🇷
dingus
14 years ago
I think Mike McCarthy brought it up because Finley has the rep of being a trash talker and a bit of a head case, as in he thinks the world of himself and needs to temper that belief.
blank
digsthepack
14 years ago
Finley...from what little we have seen of him...has the potential to change the position in a way that Gonzales and Gates can only dream of. He has superior athleticism to both in their primes, great hands as bot these guys had/have, and a strong desire to compete and win.

The way he uses his body while the ball is in the air to shield the ball from defenders is outstanding.

For those that were clamoring for Greg Olson a year prior....do you think Ted Thompson had a plan here?

Paydirt!
State Motto: "Wisconsin, our serial murderers eat their kill!"
zombieslayer
14 years ago

I think Mike McCarthy brought it up because Finley has the rep of being a trash talker and a bit of a head case, as in he thinks the world of himself and needs to temper that belief.

"dingus" wrote:



Which worries me as those personalities often translate to off field issues. And for Mike McCarthy to mention it, it probably worries him too.
My man Donald Driver
UserPostedImage
(thanks to Pack93z for the pic)
2010 will be seen as the beginning of the new Packers dynasty. 🇹🇹 🇲🇲 🇦🇷
Fan Shout
beast (16h) : You have a point, it's a very wise move, therefore, that can't be what the Jets are doing.
Zero2Cool (19h) : It'd be a wise move.
beast (17-Jan) : I think Jets are just killing time, and picking up information as they wait for their guy to get done with the playoffs.
Zero2Cool (16-Jan) : Brewers icon & Baseball Hall of Famer Bob Uecker passed away today at the age of 90
Zero2Cool (16-Jan) : Jets wanna interview Jeff Hafley for their HC spot. W. T. F.
beast (15-Jan) : A more aggressive QB, potentially could of hit the WRs more often, taking some risks, but also potential get an INT.
beast (15-Jan) : So Hurts didn't take many, if any risks, and wasn't throwing into Cover 2, which I think helped the Packers. Where a more aggressive QB o
beast (15-Jan) : Cover 2, keep a CB and Safety over top of both WRs... and Hurts (like Rodgers) is overly careful and doesn't like any risk in his throws.
joepacker (15-Jan) : new to this maybe question n wrong place?
joepacker (15-Jan) : how did the packers mostly shut down the eagles passin attack and specifically how did they manage such a good job on aj brown?
Zero2Cool (15-Jan) : Per his dad
Zero2Cool (15-Jan) : Watson to have his surgery soon, and should be back around Week 12, with a normal rehab.
beast (15-Jan) : More likely to listen if the guy controlling the ball is the one telling them
beast (15-Jan) : Apparently because players aren't doing the small things when the coaches tell them, and LaFleur believes they're more likely
Zero2Cool (15-Jan) : Jordan isn't a vocal guy. Why not let him lead his way?
Zero2Cool (15-Jan) : I'm not sure it ever bodes well when you have to tell your team leader to be more vocal.
Zero2Cool (15-Jan) : CFL. Nice.
packerfanoutwest (15-Jan) : good luck with that
packerfanoutwest (15-Jan) : Matt LaFleur looking for Jordan Love to be more of a vocal leader
civic (14-Jan) : I’m old enough to remember watching him play in the CFL
civic (14-Jan) : Clements is taking a lot of experience and knowledge out the door with him
Zero2Cool (14-Jan) : Longtime Packers QB coach Tom Clements is retiring, Matt LaFleur says.
Zero2Cool (14-Jan) : Didn't watch the game so can't say
Mucky Tundra (14-Jan) : Anyone else abhor MNF wildcard games?
Martha Careful (14-Jan) : Why is it that the Rams rookies can contribute right away but our first and second year guys are too young to contribute in a meaningful way
Martha Careful (14-Jan) : Yes, Saquon Barkley had a very nice game. But he has a much better offensive line in front of him. I'll take Josh Jacob's. I love the guy
buckeyepackfan (13-Jan) : Rumor has Mike going to The Bears.
Zero2Cool (13-Jan) : Mike McCarthy is out as Cowboys coach
Mucky Tundra (13-Jan) : DOINKED IN FOR THE WIN!!!!!
Mucky Tundra (13-Jan) : Cardiac Commanders
TheKanataThrilla (13-Jan) : Don't like that call Washtington on 4th down
TheKanataThrilla (12-Jan) : The Bills really need to improve their D. The have the ability to score at will, but if they stumble this D will not save them.
Zero2Cool (12-Jan) : LET'S GO
Mucky Tundra (12-Jan) : Blocked PAT returned for 2; not something you see often
Mucky Tundra (12-Jan) : After a strong start, Herbert playing like ass
Mucky Tundra (11-Jan) : Oh god, that means the Clifford stans will come back out of the woodwork
Zero2Cool (11-Jan) : Fills the openin they had
buckeyepackfan (11-Jan) : Sean Clifford signed to 53 man roster.
Martha Careful (11-Jan) : Two terrific NCAA Football Semi-Final Games...We can only hope the Championship game is as good
Zero2Cool (10-Jan) : Eagles WR DeVonta Smith will be a DNP in today’s practice. He’s dealing with back tightness. But the expectation is that he’ll play Sunday.
Zero2Cool (10-Jan) : Jalen Hurts has cleared the concussion protocol. He’s playing Sunday.
Zero2Cool (10-Jan) : đť•Źavier McKinney First Team All-Pro
Zero2Cool (10-Jan) : NFL moves Vikings-Rams playoff tilt to Arizona due to fires
Zero2Cool (10-Jan) : Rams lose home field advantage for Monday game.
Mucky Tundra (9-Jan) : Notre Lame=Notre Dame, Luckeyes=Ohio State, Pedo St=Penn St
Zero2Cool (9-Jan) : ... It clearly was not what we were supposed to be in, certainly."
Zero2Cool (9-Jan) : Hafley says 3rd and 11 call there was a miscommunication.
Zero2Cool (9-Jan) : The only team I know is Texas from that. Who are the other three?
Mucky Tundra (9-Jan) : Notre Lame vs Pedo St tonight and the Luckeyes vs Texas tomorrow
Mucky Tundra (9-Jan) : Stud
Please sign in to use Fan Shout
2024 Packers Schedule
Friday, Sep 6 @ 7:15 PM
Eagles
Sunday, Sep 15 @ 12:00 PM
COLTS
Sunday, Sep 22 @ 12:00 PM
Titans
Sunday, Sep 29 @ 12:00 PM
VIKINGS
Sunday, Oct 6 @ 3:25 PM
Rams
Sunday, Oct 13 @ 12:00 PM
CARDINALS
Sunday, Oct 20 @ 12:00 PM
TEXANS
Sunday, Oct 27 @ 12:00 PM
Jaguars
Sunday, Nov 3 @ 3:25 PM
LIONS
Sunday, Nov 17 @ 12:00 PM
Bears
Sunday, Nov 24 @ 3:25 PM
49ERS
Thursday, Nov 28 @ 7:20 PM
DOLPHINS
Thursday, Dec 5 @ 7:15 PM
Lions
Sunday, Dec 15 @ 7:20 PM
Seahawks
Monday, Dec 23 @ 7:15 PM
SAINTS
Sunday, Dec 29 @ 3:25 PM
Vikings
Sunday, Jan 5 @ 12:00 PM
BEARS
Sunday, Jan 12 @ 3:30 PM
Eagles
Recent Topics
8h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

10h / Green Bay Packers Talk / buckeyepackfan

15h / Green Bay Packers Talk / bboystyle

20h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

22h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Martha Careful

16-Jan / Green Bay Packers Talk / Mucky Tundra

16-Jan / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

16-Jan / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

16-Jan / Green Bay Packers Talk / Martha Careful

16-Jan / Green Bay Packers Talk / Martha Careful

15-Jan / Green Bay Packers Talk / Mucky Tundra

15-Jan / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

14-Jan / Green Bay Packers Talk / civic

14-Jan / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

14-Jan / Green Bay Packers Talk / Mucky Tundra

Headlines
Copyright © 2006 - 2025 PackersHome.com™. All Rights Reserved.