[img_r]http://cmsimg.greenbaypressgazette.com/apps/pbcsi.dll/bilde?Site=U0&Date=20081005&Category=PKR01&ArtNo=81005067&Ref=AR&Profile=1058&MaxW=318&Border=0[/img_r]Green Bay Packers coach Mike McCarthy wasnt getting an argument from many fans when he put his verbal stamp on Sundays 27-24 loss to the Atlanta Falcons.

Our house is messy right now, McCarthy said, moments after absorbing a third straight defeat, two of them at Lambeau Field.

Theyre in trouble, said Dan Ramsey of Madison, one of the 70,616 who witnessed the latest setback that dropped the team below the .500 mark for the first time since the 2006 season. They cant seem to keep it together.

Disappointment was evident outside Lambeau Field late Sunday afternoon. But desperation didnt appear to be rampant.

Yes, theres trouble, said Leah Posada of Egg Harbor. But I wont give up, Packer fans never give up.

Nor do they run out of advice.

I dont think the ship is going down, said Jeff Daugherty of Sun Prairie. But they have a lot of problems with the defense. The secondary is pathetic and the linebackers didnt step up.

Jeremy Miller of Dunkerton, Iowa said it helped to remember that the regular season is only one-fourth completed and the Packers made it close at the end.

I think they battled back and didnt show any quit, Miller said. But he was one of several fans who said they expect quarterback Aaron Rodgers to play better, despite his three touchdown passes and 313 yards passing with a shoulder injury that hadnt completely healed.

There also was the expected reference to former quarterback Brett Favre.

Im still disappointed in management that they didnt give Brett one more year, said Martha Mabis of Baldwin in northwestern Wisconsin.

With his team out of first place in the North Division for the first time this season the Chicago Bears are 3-2 McCarthy sounded a warning to his team as he opened his post-game news conference.

We need to demand more, he said.

Again, few fans would probably disagree.